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------------------ ------------------ "Till Necessitie and Not ------------------ [This message has been edited by Gordon (edited 05-07-2002).] [This message has been edited by duncan (edited 05-07-2002).] The more information we provide, the more likely it is that someone will identify it. I suspect that the "Chatelaine" website will not throw any light on the matter, but it's an interesting site nonetheless. [This message has been edited by AJR (edited 05-08-2002).] ------------------Highlandskye I have a picture of a castle that I do not know the name of or where the castle is located. I can email the picture. Please help, this is driving me nuts. I've been through hundreds of website pics trying to match it up to no avail.
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Gordon Post it to the photo archive, linked at the foot of the page, and then we can all see it. Highlandskye Thank you Gordon. The photo is now in the archive under Misc.
Thanks Gordon Where did you get the picture from? The photo looks familiar, and may be in Ireland.
'Demeure par la verite'
Visit; Gordon's Scottish Castles Resource Page Highlandskye I found the picture in a newspaper about a year ago. At the time, the castle just struck me so I cut the pic out without the name 
Gordon I've had a look through all of my Irish references, and still can't ID your castle. Sorry. Highlandskye thank you so much for trying, Gordon. I appreciate it. As I said I've been searching as well with no luck. Odd, it's a real pic and yet the castle seems not to exist.
Pauladuncan The castle may be real and I may be very wrong about its location but I don't think its in Ireland due to the type of crenellations and some other features on the outer walls.
The back ground isn't quite right for there either unless the photo has been cropped and or altered before you got it.
Sorry I'm not much help on this one.AJR This had me beaten too. My first thoughts were "Scottish" (don't ask what my second thoughts were, as I haven't had them yet !). Like duncan, the crenellations caught my eyes too. Similar to Braemar Castle, and may be a modern mock castle or fortified mansion. No doubt some bright spark will put us out of our misery.
AndrewHighlandskye okay guys, I've scanned the photo on zoom so the crenelations are clearer and also scanned again so the the landscape is clearer. This is no ruin. It should be listed somewhere. Thank you for all your help whether we find it or not. ipflo i thought i almost had him, i first thought it was raphoe castle in donegal county, but 'thanks' to the better pictures i certainly know that castle isn't it duncan I still don't think it's Irish but as stated I have been known to be wrong in the past 
The 'gate' in the back is interesting as it appeares to be only a outer single layer of stone and what looks to be a 'ramp' on the left front is also kind of strange.
Could you send me an email attachment of this photo if its not too much bother?
Megan and Ralph
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Fill Decore"Gordon Duncan, my first thought was as yours that the picture looked a little false as though it had been altered. However it does have a familiar look about it, and I put the mottly imaging down to the fact it came from a newspaper. I'm sure I've seen this picture before, just can't track it down. I've also been wrong before....but Ireland or the NW of Scotland sit well with me for the background , though the idea of a folly or clever manipulation of photos are very credible.
'Demeure par la verite'
Visit; Gordon's Scottish Castles Resource Page duncan Thanks Gordon, that put me onto a different way of thinking. The closest i had come to it was Eastnor and the ramp even 'sort of' matched the land scape 'maybe sort of', i'm keeping on looking. ipflo i agree the chance is big that the ruin is in ireland or in nw scotland, because of the landscape. but i don't think it is a folly the ruins are too big for that and not ruiniously enough for a 'normal' folly. it is probably the ruin of a manor house from the beginning of the 17th century. hopefully we find the name. Highlandskye By 'folly' you mean the newspaper altered the image? I doubt it because it came from a travel section <the back of the photo talks about visiting Newfoundland and has airfares> And I myself would not alter anything. I submitted the photo because I've been searching for it with no luck. My apologies about the poor quality of the photo, I blame my scanner and my lack of scanner expertise. To my unprofessional eye the castle looks too true to scale to be 'set up'and as I said the flip side is about travel so I apparently cut it from a travel section last year.
Again, thank you for all your help. It's driving me batty too!duncan We as moderators use the word folly often and it means a building that has a resemblance to a real castle but is not for several reasons, style or built for a garden landscape. Mostly it means that this kind of building was built some time in the 14th through the 19th century as a statement of wealth.
I don't think any one felt you modified the image. Its just another piece to the puzzle we look at is all.duncan Ok not much to add, the cows are white faced Herfords......., No sheep to be seen, the sun appears to be setting towards the lower right hand corner of the picture so the Loch is to the north west, the windows have no glass, the tower over what i presume to be the front is missing the back half, there doesn't appear their are any roofs, and I've not been able to ID the mountain range. Oh yes one more item, the cows now seem to use the building as a barn due to the fencing and tracks leading to it.
Ah well,........ I'm still looking all beit towards the NW of Scotland. But I can still be wrong and it could really be in Ireland. Highlandskye I was thinking the Cuillins, maybe Skye. Skye seems to have lots of places with those little stick 'gates' like the ones near the cows Duncan spoke about in his last post, then again I've looked at so many photos today alone that everything looks the same to me. Anyway, I found a website with about 50 trillion photos of Scottish castles. I'm going there now to look. If I'm not back by next week you'll know I fell into my computer. AJR 50 trillion Scottish castle photos ? Sounds an interesting site. Do let us know what it is if you ever emerge.
AndrewHighlandskye The site is www.castles.org/chatelaine/list.htm
I came up for a breather AJR Ah yes !! Have come across her site before, which is VERY informative. Happy hunting.
AndrewAJR duncan has e-mailed me the more detailed picture, and the more I look at it, the more I think it's a castellated mansion of around 1800 or even later, despite its dilapidated nature. It is possible that a central tower or part thereof is older. The walling in the foreground appears quite modern, and I suspect we are looking at the rear of the castle, the shady side facing the hill. With one side facing the hill, it is unlikely that the castle would have had any significant defensive value, hence another indication that the castle is a folly. Highlandskye You're right about the Chatelaine site not shedding any light on this, but it's an awesome site nonetheless. Andrew, I think you're right about it being a 'folly' (ok I understand the word now ) because, logically, even though it's in disrepair, it's still big and bold enough that it should be listed SOMEWHERE if it were a true castle. I will begin searching mansions, but I don't want to drive you guys crazy with this anymore. You've been wonderful and gracious with your help and I just wanted to say thank you for all your time.
PaulaGordon If it's not an artistic mock up made for the newspaper,(and I still have concerns about that) then AJR is probably right. Close inspection of the structure on the high res pic (Duncan sent it to me too) gives a late 18th early 19thc feel too it. Landscape wise it still looks NW Scotland or Ireland....or even some parts of the States or Canada.
'Demeure par la verite'
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