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Baron_Iveagh
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posted 09-19-2005 02:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Baron_Iveagh   Click Here to Email Baron_Iveagh     Edit/Delete Message
I'm currently doing some family history research and have more or less hit a wall. (I'va allready tried to find a copy of Castles and Stronghouses of Ireland, with no luck) Here are a list of castles that I'm having trouble finding pictures/floorplans/histories of:

Dun Locha: I've found lots of pics of this one, as it's the famous castle of three castle head, but all but two are of it from the front, and not a history other then it was given to the Croughlin family, nor floor plan in sight. Only castle I could find any legend of, as the lake there is supposedly the home of a fairy woman.

Ardentenane - A few referecnes to it as the early seat of the sept, but not much else, and only one pic. (Though there seems to be a lot of confusion over the name of it, as it's not gaelic. I belive the name is a corruption of the old french, ardentennant "The Good Servent" which to me makes sense, as it's near Shull, which contained a school built by bull of Innocent III)

Leamcon - Some nice pics of it for sale,but not too much data, and no floor plans. Only historical reference is that it fell by use of a sow. (a inquirey, what is a 'sow' as pretains to seige weapons? All I can find is an oblique reference that makes it sound like a metal shod battering ram.)

Ballydevlin - No data

Lissagriffith - No data

Dunmanus - A very few pics of it, and that it fell by decite. No additional data.

Rossbrin - Most history I have, but least images. Seems to have been destroyed.

Castle Meheagan - Not sure if this was a real castle of a fortified village. Seems to be no longer in existance.

Accounts claim that the O' Mahoney's of Iveagh built 12 castles, but these are all the ones that I can find reference to.

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Lasair romhuin a-buadh

Peter
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posted 09-19-2005 03:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter   Click Here to Email Peter     Edit/Delete Message
Very quick for tonight!
is .. Dun Locha ... Dunlough ?

is .. Ardentenane ... Ardintenant ?

The only Leamcon I can find says ..' Vanished 17th stronghouse of Sir Willian Hull'. Be interesting if it still there in some form?

Ballydevlin ?

Lissagriffith ... Lissagriffin ? Tower overlooking Barley Bay.

Dumanus ... okay.

Rossbrin ... NE corner still standing to three stories.

Castle Mehigan ... site of castle built in 1540, ref: V800 261.

Leave that with you for now.

Cheers Peter

Peter
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posted 09-19-2005 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter   Click Here to Email Peter     Edit/Delete Message
Also try;
Dunmanus
Black Castle
Rossmore
Castle Island.

Still no Ballydevlin
Peter

Baron_Iveagh
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posted 09-22-2005 09:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Baron_Iveagh   Click Here to Email Baron_Iveagh     Edit/Delete Message
Ok, according to Father O'Mahony's history of the O'Mahony septs, Leamcon is the same as Black Castle, on Mannaninish (aka Castle Island)which leads me to question if James Lyons O'Keefe is selling the right name on the right castle...

(As far as the spelling's go, I've found about 3 different spellings for every last one of them as I've gone along, so I went with whichever spelling looked the best to me.)

Peter
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posted 09-22-2005 01:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter   Click Here to Email Peter     Edit/Delete Message
Yes!
Spellings would be a pain, and no doubt different sources may give slightly different spellings. But so long as you tie them all together, things should roll along.
Sounds like you are pulling all those strings together though?
Peter

Baron_Iveagh
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posted 09-23-2005 08:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Baron_Iveagh   Click Here to Email Baron_Iveagh     Edit/Delete Message
One thing that drives me up the wall is that the English re-named everything, the Irish kept using the same names, no one spelled anything like what everyone else did, either the English tried to burn all the records, or the Irish did, and then the whole area was depopulated. And no one seems to have done much archeology in the area, either. I was just hoping that prehaps some of the readers here might have acess to sources that I don't.

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Lasair romhuin a-buadh

Peter
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posted 09-24-2005 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter   Click Here to Email Peter     Edit/Delete Message
Well,
having been to two C.S.Group conferences in Eire, it is generally acknowledged that castle studies has far to go when compared with mainland U.K.
Every little piece of information, from no matter where is a goof thing.
Peter

Baron_Iveagh
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posted 11-17-2005 07:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Baron_Iveagh   Click Here to Email Baron_Iveagh     Edit/Delete Message
Watchman, who let this troll in?

Peter
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posted 11-19-2005 01:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter   Click Here to Email Peter     Edit/Delete Message
Okay, okay ... a 'good thing',
but I still think goof sounds better.
Peter

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