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kollmm
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posted 01-16-2002 05:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kollmm   Click Here to Email kollmm     Edit/Delete Message
I am looking for the names of castles that are on mountain / hill tops, and also for the names of the mountains / hills that they are on.

Thanks in advance for any help you can offer!

Kollmm@hotmail.com

duncan
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posted 01-16-2002 07:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for duncan   Click Here to Email duncan     Edit/Delete Message
You can't be serious!!!
Think about what you just asked and then try to name every hill/mountain in your country!!
There are thousands of castles all over the world.

kollmm
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posted 01-16-2002 08:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kollmm   Click Here to Email kollmm     Edit/Delete Message
I never said I wanted (or expected) *all* of them. I realize now that I said "the names" instead of "some names", so that might have confused you.

So - I simply want some names, or suggestions on how to go about researching names myself.

Thx,
K

Merlin
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posted 01-17-2002 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Merlin   Click Here to Email Merlin     Edit/Delete Message
Ok, so you do research for that speccial type of castles. But you still should give as aome further information: Are you looking for castles in the UK, Ireland, France, Italy, Switzerland, Germany, Austria, the Czech Republic, Skandinavia, Israel or somewhere else?

duncan
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posted 01-17-2002 09:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for duncan   Click Here to Email duncan     Edit/Delete Message
I had no confusion over your question.
We can only go by what members put into their words and as Andrew stated in another topic, "we are only human",and are not mind readers.
Now if you would be so good as to let us know in what country to look, some one will try to answer your question if we have the time.

Erik Schmidt
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posted 01-18-2002 03:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Erik Schmidt   Click Here to Email Erik Schmidt     Edit/Delete Message
You're testing me by asking for the names of the hills/mountains as well. I can't as yet think of one where I also know that without having to look it up.
If you let us know more specifically what it's for. Mainly the numbers you're after, the specific time period(if any), the type of castle features you might be particularly interested in, and country, as said above. It all helps to give you the info you're after, especially when we have so amny to choose from.

Erik

kollmm
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posted 01-18-2002 04:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kollmm   Click Here to Email kollmm     Edit/Delete Message
Okay, more explicit. I apologize for thinking that I could get away with being vague.

FWIW, I am a castle and medival enthusiast, including having been an SCA'er in the past, and anyone who has spent any time around me since the 80's has had to hear about my plans to build my own castle someday... that said, this has only tangentially to do with that.

I am in charge of a project which involves computer security. I have a codename for this project, but it has recently been decided by some execs that this name has to go. As it so happens, internal code-naming conventions have been all about mountains of late, and so I was thinking that a castle on a mountain would be a great codename for a security product.

The location of said castle doesn't matter so much as it's history. EG, Casino might be a great name, but unfortunately the Nazis held it, and as such I can't really use it. Citadel also has a nice ring, except it also has major issues...

In an ideal world, it would be a castle that was on a hill or mountain and which is famous for having succesfully held off mean, nasty invaders.

Bonus points if you can find an Ottoman castle which defended against those annoying Christian crusaders!

Thanks (again) for your patience and interest.

K

duncan
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posted 01-18-2002 04:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for duncan   Click Here to Email duncan     Edit/Delete Message
I can't help you but i'm sure one of our members or moderators will very soon,

On the Building of Your Own Castle i may be able to help, feel free to post when you want

[This message has been edited by duncan (edited 01-18-2002).]

Gordon
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posted 01-18-2002 04:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Mmmm, well it's hardly going to be a secret password if we post it here. Hilltop castles would probably be more realistic, mountains are very high, and most castles would only be part way up if on a mountain. Fatlips might be a good one, it's a ruined tower house overlooking the watershed of the rivers Clyde and Tweed, where they pass so close that their flood waters mix. Even being so close, and rising on opposite sides of the same hills, they empty into the seas on opposite sides of the country. No one knows who built it, but it is in a perfect position as a watchtower for invasion from England, since it covers two of the main invasion routes, the valleys of Clyde and Tweed.

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Erik Schmidt
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posted 01-18-2002 08:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Erik Schmidt   Click Here to Email Erik Schmidt     Edit/Delete Message
Ahh. So you are after a great sounding name with a good, strong history behind it.

Nimrod fortress(Qual'at Nimrud) in the Golan heights. It was built during, and survived, the crusades, mostly in muslim hands. It was large and impressive, and still is to some extent today.
It lies on a ridge at the foot of Mount Hermon(Israel), but I don't know the name of the ridge.
There's lots of info on the web, for example; http://www.us-israel.org/jsource/Archaeology/Nimrod.html

What about moorish alcazars? There are many in Spain. One of the last to fall, and the largest, the great fortified palace in Granada, is the Alhambra.

Let me know if any of these names grab you, and I'll see if I can name the hill.
Turkish castles;
Bakras
Silifke
Toprak(kale)
Yilan(kale)
Tumlu
Kozan
Greek castles;
Acrocorinth
Kavala
Swiss castles;
Lenzburg
Lucens
Valeria

What about the word 'castle' in;
Turkish. Kale or Kalesi
German. Burg
Italian. Castel, Rocca or Castello

Erik


kollmm
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posted 01-21-2002 02:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kollmm   Click Here to Email kollmm     Edit/Delete Message
These are great. Thanks a bunch! Now, on to your wonderful responses.

I love the name "fatlips", but I don't think it's going to fly. If the hill has a different name, it could work.

On the castle front - Nimrod is in the bible, too. He is a great hunter. I personally like the name, but somehow it has taken on weird connotations in English (according to Dictionary.com, we can blame this on Bugs Bunny).

However, the name of the mountain it is on would be really interesting, especially as it probably has (or had) multiple names - some English (or French?), some Arabic. I just spent some time searching on the web, but I didn't get anything from a topo map perspective...

Alhambra sounds great - any others in the vein? Also, is the mountain Grenada or something else?

Other names that I like (and so would love the hill / mountain names, if you have them):

Bakras
Tumlu
Kozan
Kavala
Valeria
Castello

Thanks again,
K

Gordon
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posted 01-21-2002 06:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Sorry, forgot to mention, the 'hill' that Fatlips stands on is called 'Tinto Hill', and if you'd ever tried to climb it you'd think it more of a mountain.
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Erik Schmidt
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posted 01-24-2002 09:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Erik Schmidt   Click Here to Email Erik Schmidt     Edit/Delete Message
Couldn't find the name of the hill on which Nimrod fortress is located as yet. Another name for the fortress is Subeibe.
The Alhambra located on hill called La Sabika, in Granada. By the way, Alcazaba, means fortress in Spanish. There is one located within the Alhambra.
Bakras castle is located on the side of a mountain range in Turkey called Nur Daglari (the 'g' is accented).

Tumlu, Kozan, Kavala and Valeria castles are all locted on small hills which I cannot get the names for.

Some other names;
Kantara (Cyprus)
St. Hilarion (Cyprus)
Tarasp (Switzerland)

Erik

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