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fafwolf
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posted 01-21-2001 12:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fafwolf     Edit/Delete Message
Out of curiosity, since castles and the whole histroical focus of castlequest tends to blend over into fantasy occasionally, are there any everquest players out there?
for thouse of you uninitiated into "our" world EQ is a MMORPG, that is, massivly multiplayer online role playing game. Also know as "evercrack" and "neverquit" it is an extremely addicting and fun game in which you can role play as a variaty of caracters and classes in the world of norrath (and yes it has castles, sort of).

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"Those who refuse to serve the Powers,
become the tools of the Powers.
Those who agree to serve the Powers,
Themselves become the Powers.

Beware the Choice! Beware refusing it!"
-Book of Night with Moon Tetrastych XVI: "Fire Over Heaven"

Philip Davis
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posted 01-22-2001 12:09 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I suppose one day I might get round to online playing but I prefer to feel it's just me against the world!!. I quite enjoy RPG's and have been laughing and frowning at some of the strange ideas of medieval life in Baldur's Gate (White enamel bathtubs!!) but generally enjoying the game. I'm not sure why RPG's are so closely associated with a medieval style (even if way off and mixed with magic and fantasy) I suppose it must be the long history of Fantasy Novels (Mort d'Arthur, Ivanhoe, Lord of the Rings etc) with a medieval base although one of the Best RPG's I've come across is called Fallout and is a post nuclear holocaust sci fi fantasy.
Perhaps it would be nice to see a RPG based on some other format. A western or a Jane Austin Regency novel (Pride and Prejudice the RPG with points for successful flirtations with Mr Darcy!!!)

fafwolf
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posted 01-22-2001 02:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fafwolf     Edit/Delete Message
Fallout is a cool game, ever tried fallout2? Or I think there's another sequel thingy. If you like you against the world you could play as one of the evil, killed on sight races, but I never liked those... each to their own.
ANYway, I think perhaps you're correct about the reasons behind the association between fantasy RPGs and the middle ages. RPGs always are set in some sort of world unlike ours, be it a fantasy land or a post apocalyptic future. people want a world where they are free of todays constraints, and not only does Roleplaying give them this, but perhaps they tend to see the middleages/renaissance as a freer (though more disease ridden, etc.) time as well.

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"Those who refuse to serve the Powers,
become the tools of the Powers.
Those who agree to serve the Powers,
Themselves become the Powers.

Beware the Choice! Beware refusing it!"
-Book of Night with Moon Tetrastych XVI: "Fire Over Heaven"

Philip Davis
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posted 01-23-2001 12:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Well Fallout 2 hasn't made it to the Mac so I'l either have to get it and play on me dad's windoze machine or stick with answering question like "Tell me all there is to know about castles!!!!"
Anyhow how do I patent the idea of Pride and Prejudice the RPG (It'll happen sometime I bet!)

There is an altogether more interesting side as to the psychological motivations for an interest in the past. I've touched on this a few times in previous post but I've certainly met people who's main interest in the past is that is, for them, a simpler time when things were clear. This tends to show itself at it's most extreme with people who tell you exactly how things were in the past, and who will give no truck to alternative views. The reality, of course, was that in the past, as now, many thing were done many different ways. However, for those of rigid personalities, the simple understanding of the past that poor history can give becomes attractive.
For others, like myself, the complexities of the past offer an escape from the mundainess of the present.
At it's worst some people construct a past which supports their psychotic world view (Psychotic here meaning cut off from reality). Nazi history professors were able to find evidence to support their racial theories which where the ultimate justification for the Holocast.

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wurdsmiff
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posted 01-23-2001 01:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message
History and the characters from it were never a simple matter.
Wherever and whenever man has existed there has been a divergence of opinion, and intelligence and the lack of it is not a recent phenomenon.
Any group with an efficient propaganda machine has been able to influence the interpretation of history and it's events.
Perhaps one could interpret the development of religion as the first evidence of this, and religion is as old as man itself.
The problem is that as you say, some folks historical interpretations are as fixed as religious ones, which in definition are only a small step away from that of delusion.
My own interest at times stems from the familiarity and repetition of like events throughout history, and the constancy of human nature.

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fafwolf
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posted 01-23-2001 02:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fafwolf     Edit/Delete Message
Yikes! Cool it, I didnt mean to imply that the past was a simpler time. (just check out heraldry for example, eventually only the heralds knbew exactly what was going on...) I meant to imply that people sometime THINK of it that way.
~Fafwolf~
PS hey look, im a senior member! Ive obviously been spending too much time here instead of doing homework. jk

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"Those who refuse to serve the Powers,
become the tools of the Powers.
Those who agree to serve the Powers,
Themselves become the Powers.
Beware the Choice! Beware refusing it!"

-Book of Night with Moon Tetrastych XVI: "Fire Over Heaven"

[This message has been edited by fafwolf (edited 01-23-2001).]

Philip Davis
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posted 01-23-2001 04:12 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Hey like ain't that wot I said.

I'm not sure you can have 'an interpretation of history' ain't history the interpretation of the past from historic sources (strictly written sources)?

Merlin
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posted 01-24-2001 03:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Merlin   Click Here to Email Merlin     Edit/Delete Message
No way! As for castles (I only mention that because it's an example that everyone here is able to understand), aren't they more or less perfect historic sources themselfes? What about fotographs, videotapes or records as most important sources for the history of the 20th century?

If historians would only look at the written sources, we'd all still believe that Santaclaus has a house at the north pole.

Merlin

AJR
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posted 01-24-2001 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AJR     Edit/Delete Message
But Santa DOES live at the North Pole, doesn't he ?

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Merlin
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posted 01-24-2001 04:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Merlin   Click Here to Email Merlin     Edit/Delete Message
Indeed he does! As sure as Robin Hood lives in Sherwood Forrest and William Tell in the swiss Alps!

Merlin

wurdsmiff
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posted 01-24-2001 04:55 AM           Edit/Delete Message
But Robin Hoods real name was William Wallace, and Edward 1 was Sherrif of Nottingham! a debateable point I agree, but most legends have some basis in truth.

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duncan
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posted 01-24-2001 08:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for duncan   Click Here to Email duncan     Edit/Delete Message
I see you guys can get into a heated talk with out my help these days, makes me feel not needed any more, sniff.
This might sum things up in a nut shell, or a straight jacket depending;
"Perhaps nobody has changed the course of history as much as the historians"

If Santa lives and bowls at the north pole {the elves were loseing untill the sound card crumbled in my pc and now i only get to play the game some times}, and Robin was William, who is/was/will be, the Lady of the lake?

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Philip Davis
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posted 01-24-2001 11:38 AM           Edit/Delete Message
There is a serious point here about what is history. What history definitely isn't is the past.
Personally I think castles, as artifacts, are best understood as archeology (most archeology is not buried or from prehistory) and my interest is generally archeological. History, to me and many academics, is the interpretation of historical sources and historical sources and almost always written (though not necessarily on paper or parchment). However, as Merlin says, illuminations and other such things are used as historical sources.
Good historians and archeologists work together to gain a fuller understanding of the past. But there do exist some bad historians who dismiss archeology as trivial muck racking and some bad archeologist who dismiss historians as mere readers who have no solid evidence to base their interpretations on. That such individuals exist can be rapidly proved by looking at soc.medieval.history or some other history newsgroup.

Usually, of course, the sense in which people mean the past when they say history is clear and not of any great importance. However, on some important occasions it is absolutely essential to be clear that history is not the same as the past.

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wurdsmiff
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posted 01-24-2001 11:59 AM           Edit/Delete Message
At risk of being offered some thorazine, in the sybolism of the arthurian story she may represent the people, or the country, as those who provide the strength behind the rule. In a similar piece of symbolism,a later representation was perhaps in the form of Britania, though she really symbolised the nation as a whole. A question of interpretation I suppose.
My own lady of the lake is a red head by the name of Linda, who serves a wonderful pint of ale after a hard days fishing.

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wurdsmiff
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posted 01-24-2001 12:54 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Back to the history question.
I agree. When I used the phrase 'interpretation of history' earlier it was from the perspective of those whom I was describing.
To clarify a little on the 'interpretation' point.
In a previous thread I mention that archaeology is a science which provides the core structure upon which the theory of history is built. History is the assembing of the various pieces, and interpreting them. All historical documents tell the story only from the writers point of view, and like Merlins photos, videos and records give clues or impressions of what went on. But a picture whether in words, sound or image, gives but one scene of a complex world. To get as near to the truth as possible, you have to study as many sources of information as possible, and then interpret them in order that your vision of the past is as complete as possible. No individual source has the capacity to give a complete picture.
The past is what really happened. History is occuring in the present, and will in the future. History is that process of interpretation, and archaeology is it's scientific arm.
The dismissive nature of what Philip describes as bad historians and archaeologists is probably borne from a rivalry which in these cases has become unproductive, and as a result of the same individual inflexibility described previously.
Productive and constructive rivalry produces results within a team. The two professions should work together, and those individuals who dismiss the others work discredit themselves.

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fafwolf
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posted 01-24-2001 02:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fafwolf     Edit/Delete Message
YEAHGHHH! i knew it was a mistake for me to let this e-ail me when people replied! what a huge post generation! yikes! anyway, ill try and get in a better reply to all thiis later, but a certain parental figure is yelling something about tommorrows homework that i havent started yet...

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"Those who refuse to serve the Powers,
become the tools of the Powers.
Those who agree to serve the Powers,
Themselves become the Powers.

Beware the Choice! Beware refusing it!"
-Book of Night with Moon Tetrastych XVI: "Fire Over Heaven"

Merlin
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posted 01-24-2001 02:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Merlin   Click Here to Email Merlin     Edit/Delete Message
Rivalry between archeologists and historians used to be a general problem in german science until the mid 1960s. Especially during the Third Reich, Nazi-historians tried to glorify the past of their nation and interpreted the remains of royal palaces and castles in their own way, painting on the picture of the overpowerful blonde Arians. This sick form of patriotism combined with racism has turned most of their results into rubbish. But these books are now themselves sources who tell us something about the time they were written.

Rivalry between archeologists and historians can still be seen today, when the historic sources (texts) and the archeologic evidence are contradictory. But like the archeologist, the historian also should make a clear difference between the bare facts and his interpretation. These facts (no matter if archeologic or historic) are a spot of light on a very small piece of the past. What we fill in between all the pieces to get a recognizable picture - is history.

Merlin

Philip Davis
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posted 01-24-2001 02:49 PM           Edit/Delete Message
AH HA!
There was the start of an interesting debate on the nature of historical fact in soc.medieval.history some months ago, which was soon swamped by the resident dork in that group.
At it simplest than comes down to confusing the fact of the existance of a historical source with the questionable content of that source.
For example I have a letter from Mr X in which he wrote "I was born in 1900". Now it is a provable fact that I have the letter (come and see it) but it's not a fact that Mr X was born in 1900. Even if I have a birth certificate for a Mr X born in 1900 this doesn't mean my Mr X was born in 1900, the birth certificate might refer to someone else.
Actually careful historian shouldn't really talk about facts but about evidence and draw up interpretation on the bases that further evidence may challenge and change these interpretations.
This is also true of archeologist who should always be aware that there findings and open to challenge with new evidence. (Was Davis Cathcart King wrong to dismiss Acton Bank as a barrow and not a motte and bailey?)

wurdsmiff
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posted 01-24-2001 03:44 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Archaeologists are also guilty of making assumptions based on their experience.
The motte at Roberton in Clydesdale was always assumed by archaeologists and historians alike to have been the caput of Robert the Fleming, the original 12thc immigrant settler. When it was excavated it gave up pottery from below it's base firmly dated as of the 14th century. This has led to three assumptions.
1. That the motte was built by Mary of Stirling, who had some form of fortified residence in the area c1330.
2. That the earthwork later re-assessed a little to the north of Roberton Kirk is the original Robert's caput.
3. That the style of pottery discovered was not present in the area before or after the discovery below the motte. The motte may date from even later and the pottery may still have been in use.
Admittedly most modern archaeologists should tell you when they are making an assumption, as a stimulus to further investigation.

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Merlin
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posted 01-25-2001 12:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Merlin   Click Here to Email Merlin     Edit/Delete Message
About the facts (I had to come back to this because Philip was accusing me of not beeing a careful historian):

I agree that evidence and fact is not the same thing. But I do not agree that a fact is only what you can see with your own eyes or feel with your own hands (or maybe we have another language problem here, but I think 'fact' means the same as 'Fakt' in german). This definition would make science impossible, because everyone would have his own range of facts, todays historians completely other ones than those who'll write in 20 years. There would be no common agreement on anything. But: That Napoleon I. was defeated at Waterloo is a fact, although you can't go there and see it yourself - there is simply so much evidence on that event that no doubt is possible.

But I have to agree that it is not that easy in every case. Some years ago, there was a german writer (Heribert Ilg) who tried to prove that Charlemagne and all the other Carolingians are an invention of the 12th century and that the 8th and 9th centuries are a gap in history and never really existed. He made it to several newspapers but gained a lot of laughing from the experts. There is simply to much evidence for the existence of a Carolingian age, but the idea was interesting.

Merlin

Philip Davis
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posted 01-25-2001 01:18 AM           Edit/Delete Message
I don't mean to offend you Merlin. Your knowledge and care is obvious.

The guts of the argument on soc.history.medieval came down to just this point. Does something in the past become a historical fact if the evidence is overwhelming. Certainly many historians would say so. The trouble lies with what is enough evidence to prove a case. Certainly it is clumsy to write the evidence that Napoleon lost at Waterloo is overwhelming rather than just he lost.
The care of a careful historian comes in the presenting of the evidence and the interest comes from the interpretation of this evidence. It doesn't really matter if the historian calls his interpretation a fact if the reader is able to make their own judgement. It does matter if the historian (or politican) calls something a fact without presenting the evidence.
Some historians can seem to avoid this difficulty altogether by just presenting the evidence and apparently not make an interpretation - but the choice of what to present is, of course, an interpretation by itself and not giving your interpretation is also wrong since it misleads the reader.

I'm no historian and I know my posts often fall short of my ideal but I suppose that what I'm saying here is that these factors are those that I use to judge the quality of a historian work. If a historian takes some care with his language I suppose I feel he may have taken some care with his research. However, there are more important signs of a historian taking care with their work and the foremost of these is giving references to primary sources. Something which Merlin is excellent at.

duncan
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posted 01-25-2001 09:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for duncan   Click Here to Email duncan     Edit/Delete Message
As a simple example of the narrow-mindness that exists with many of our todays historians, archoeologists, and 'others' who lay claim to "know" something of the human equation in our past history.
An exhibit of artifacts containing one "Human Hair Comb" was on desplay at a national museum. A visiter was pointing out the flaws in this theory when told by the curator that she was wrong. She very politly informed him of the mistake and she was laughed at for not being of their level of knowledge. It wasn't untill a simular item was unearthed in another dig with other weaveing tools of the apox. same age that the museum changed their minds.
Sometimes all the knowledge in the world can not replace hands on experence. Facts are like that as well and if a person does not go to the trouble to get their facts straight before makeing an assumption then the out come is probable.

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Philip Davis
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posted 01-25-2001 02:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Learning the tools for judging the quality of a historian work is becoming increasingly important. When history was published in books at least an editor looked at it before releasing it on the public (not an absolute safe guard from rubbish, particualy in romantic areas of history like castles) but with the increase use of the WWW learning how to sort the good from the bad becomes more vital. As an example of how bad some of the information can be look at http://www.geocities.com/medcastle/ and check the castle history section, and this site at least has a biblography, although it's not clear if the site author has read any of the books (or looked at the pictures in Cutaway Castle).

Merlin
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posted 01-26-2001 04:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Merlin   Click Here to Email Merlin     Edit/Delete Message
Too much praise, Philip, but thank you. My experience is not that large either, because I can rightly call myself a historian only since I got my university degree, and that's not more than four weeks ago.
What I learned was always to make a clear difference between source-texts, ones own interpretation and the interpretation of other authors. The best solution is to show the readers all source-texts (at least the sections you used as evidence for your theories) with all possible references in an appendix. The history of the tradition of every source-text is most important and has always to be considered (especially royal documents giving privileges to certain people were often forged - there have been abbeys specialized in this trade). This way, it seems best possible to give others the possibility to judge if ones interpretation is justified.

Merlin

wurdsmiff
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posted 01-26-2001 05:00 AM           Edit/Delete Message
May I offer my congratulations on gaining your degree Merlin. From the quality of your answers and the information given in your replies since you joined us it is obvious that your hard work was deserving of the award.

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Merlin
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posted 01-26-2001 05:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Merlin   Click Here to Email Merlin     Edit/Delete Message
Many thanks, Gordon. It indeed was a hard piece of work to get there.

By the way: Ted (the Scribe) just offered me to become a CQ-moderator, and I wanted to ask if anyone has any objections. Looking at the remainig forums, my priorities would be 'Life inside a castle' or the 'Castle book nook'. Any better ideas?

Merlin

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wurdsmiff
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posted 01-26-2001 09:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message
No objections at all, congratulations again.

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Philip Davis
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posted 01-26-2001 10:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Probably not praise enough Merlin. Congrates on the degree, a first of several I presume.

Apart from not being a historian I'm also pretty careless, which makes getting to remote castle sites quite difficult, public transport being what it is.

Back to fafwolf's original theme I did come across an PRG called Nethergate which is based on the Roman conquest of Britannia, but I can't thing of any other RPG which is not based on a medieval fantasy theme. Are there any?

fafwolf
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posted 01-26-2001 04:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fafwolf     Edit/Delete Message
Congrats Merlin, I'm sure your degree was well earned. Have fun as a Moderator

Philip, another example of and RPG not based on a medieval teme is Fallout and Fallout 2, which you mentioned at the beginning of the discussion. Halflife, a first person shooter, has a good enough story with a complicated enough plot to almost warrent calling it and RPG...
Currently, the computer gaming world is going through a transformation. More and more games attemp to blend 2 or more genres together. RPG+FPS FPS+strategy/wargame Strat wargame+RPG, and more. with the leaps in #D technology and the gamers insatiable lust for new ideas, gaming is mutating faster then one can keep up...

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"Those who refuse to serve the Powers,
become the tools of the Powers.
Those who agree to serve the Powers,
Themselves become the Powers.

Beware the Choice! Beware refusing it!"
-Book of Night with Moon Tetrastych XVI: "Fire Over Heaven"

AJR
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posted 01-29-2001 01:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AJR     Edit/Delete Message
Shouldn't there be a posting to the effect that Merlin is now a Moderator - Good luck and many congratulations.
Andrew

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Merlin
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posted 01-29-2001 05:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Merlin   Click Here to Email Merlin     Edit/Delete Message
Many thanks all around...

Fox Atreides
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Yes, we can't forget to congratulate 'im on that can we?

Hereby I, Sir Fox Atreides, congratulate you, Merlin, on your new job.

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fafwolf
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posted 01-29-2001 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fafwolf     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, we congratulated Merilin, starting 01-26-2001 05:19 AM
see:
congrats again merlin
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Many thanks, Gordon. It indeed was a hard piece of work to get there.
By the way: Ted (the Scribe) just offered me to become a CQ-moderator, and I wanted to ask if anyone has any objections. Looking at the remainig forums, my priorities would be 'Life inside a castle' or the 'Castle book nook'. Any better ideas?

Merlin

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"Those who refuse to serve the Powers,
become the tools of the Powers.
Those who agree to serve the Powers,
Themselves become the Powers.

Beware the Choice! Beware refusing it!"
-Book of Night with Moon Tetrastych XVI: "Fire Over Heaven"

fafwolf
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posted 02-05-2001 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fafwolf     Edit/Delete Message
Would any moderator mind closing this thread? This topic seems to be exhausted

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"Those who refuse to serve the Powers,
become the tools of the Powers.
Those who agree to serve the Powers,
Themselves become the Powers.

Beware the Choice! Beware refusing it!"
-Book of Night with Moon Tetrastych XVI: "Fire Over Heaven"

[This message has been edited by fafwolf (edited 02-05-2001).]

duncan
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posted 02-05-2001 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for duncan   Click Here to Email duncan     Edit/Delete Message
To close it, it must be locked and can not be added to later. How about starting a new topic?

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I DONT PLAY EVERQUEST B/c I AM ADDICTED TO ANTHER GAME CALLED HALF-LIFE IN WHICH I SPEND MOST OF MY TIME PLAYING AND I HATE RPG's (WELL... EXCEPT FOR FINAL FANTASY VII)
I AM FIRST PLAYER SHOOTER ALL THE WAY


P.S. OHH YEH I HAVE BEEN KNOWN TO PLAY A RPG GAME ONLINE ALSO ... HOW STUPID OF ME... UMMM IT IS CALLED NEXUS AND IT IS FAIRLY FUN

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