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Topic: Great new signature! (sorry, not about beer)
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Fox Atreides
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posted 03-11-2001 09:58 AM
  
Just wanted to show my new signature to ya stunties. oh and 'ere's another fun one:Da only good stunty is a dead stunty, and the only thing better than a dead stunty is a dying stunty who tells ya were to find 'is mates. ------------------
"I'm gonna stomp 'em to dust. I'm gonna grind their bones. I'm gonna pile 'em up inna big fire and roast 'em. I'm gonna bash 'eads, break faces and jump up and down on da bits dat are left. An' den I'm gonna get really mean."
- Grimgor Ironhide, Black Orc Warboss |
Levan
Moderator
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posted 03-11-2001 01:59 PM
Maybe I'm too old to know the answer to this, but what's a 'stunty'?Levan [This message has been edited by Levan (edited 03-11-2001).] |
wurdsmiff
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posted 03-11-2001 02:41 PM
Personally I prefer Tolkien's Orcs, much more colourful characters, and original.
'Stripped, eh?' said Gorbag.
'What teeth, hair, nails and all?' |
Merlin
Senior Member
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posted 03-12-2001 06:33 AM
Yes. The Orcs of Mordor definitely make the better poems. |
Fox Atreides
Senior Member
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posted 03-13-2001 09:01 AM
I don't know what a stunty is, some weird guy I suppose.
And Tolkiens Orcs are da best, right, but the haven't got that nice stuff for signatures like this:------------------
"I'm gonna stomp 'em to dust. I'm gonna grind their bones. I'm gonna pile 'em up inna big fire and roast 'em. I'm gonna bash 'eads, break faces and jump up and down on da bits dat are left. An' den I'm gonna get really mean."
- Grimgor Ironhide, Black Orc Warboss |
fafwolf
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posted 03-14-2001 12:07 PM
Just a guess, but being a snotty elf (at least in the online fantasy world) I think "stunty" is the perfect name for a dwarf. An' ya know fox, not all of us here are confirmed alcoholics, just a select few. lol------------------
"Those who refuse to serve the Powers,
become the tools of the Powers.
Those who agree to serve the Powers,
Themselves become the Powers. Beware the Choice! Beware refusing it!"
-Book of Night with Moon Tetrastych XVI: "Fire Over Heaven" |
Fox Atreides
Senior Member
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posted 03-16-2001 07:08 AM
Hey, I'm an elf too, as well as an orc (rather interesting combination isn't it)
And I hate disappointing da select one.------------------
"I'm gonna stomp 'em to dust. I'm gonna grind their bones. I'm gonna pile 'em up inna big fire and roast 'em. I'm gonna bash 'eads, break faces and jump up and down on da bits dat are left. An' den I'm gonna get really mean."
- Grimgor Ironhide, Black Orc Warboss |
Fox Atreides
Senior Member
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posted 03-19-2001 11:05 AM
anyone's got something to say?
getting boring here, may even start about beer.BTW, I've got a new signature again  ------------------
"Giants are mostly just big, but of course, that does count for a lot" |
duncan
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posted 03-19-2001 03:13 PM
What may i ask is wrong with ROOT BEER? |
Philip Davis
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posted 03-19-2001 03:36 PM
When MacDonald's first open branches in the UK in the early 80's they offered root beer which I quite enjoyed. However, it never caught on overhere. What we do have is ginger beer, which varies in quality but some of the good jamaican stuff is wonderful. In the end though there's nothing to beat proper Yorkshire dandelion and burdock. |
Philip Davis
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posted 03-19-2001 03:48 PM
With regards to trolls et al I'm quite fond of Detritus, Cheery Littlebottom and The Librarian myself. |
wurdsmiff
unregistered
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posted 03-20-2001 03:23 AM
Is the Librarian a Blonde, Brunettte, or a Redhead? |
Fox Atreides
Senior Member
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posted 03-20-2001 06:40 AM
actually, dis was not what I meant. Personal relationships are to be discussed in da library, MSN or ICQ, not here. and someone must have got something else to say then da beer stuff, as a 13 year old, I'm not really interested in that kinda stuff------------------
"Giants are mostly just big, but of course, that does count for a lot" |
AJR
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posted 03-20-2001 07:21 AM
Having not yet added my own piece, I think it's time I did.Fox, in my opinion (and it is ONLY my opinion), signatures from books are good, but how about trying to compose one of your own. Now that would be really something. I find the personal touch adds finesse to a posting. There's a challenge for you, Fox. Hear from you soon, eh ?!!
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The broken stones, the ruined walls,
'Tis few who know where hist'ry falls.
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duncan
Senior Member
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posted 03-20-2001 08:47 AM
I was thinking of useing what was said on the project the other day,The stones..., The stones..., o' my broken bones! for some reason i thought better of it. |
AJR
Senior Member
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posted 03-20-2001 08:55 AM
Among the shadows can be found
The hist'ry of this sacred ground.
But none now tread upon this stone
Where water drips and winds do moan.
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Philip Davis
unregistered
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posted 03-20-2001 09:39 AM
The Librarian is not so much a redhead as a redbody. He is also found of bananas.PS. I didn't compose my current signature either, I pinched it. ------------------
And the astronomyours beheldyne the constellacions of hys bryth by thare castle, and foundyn that he sholde bene wyse and curteyse, good of consaill
Secreta Secretorum Visit Castellarium Philippis
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Fox Atreides
Senior Member
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posted 03-20-2001 11:35 AM
How about this one duncie, don't take this one too litterally (how do ya spell that damnit) but please don't have comments on my signatures, their fun, and that's what it's all about.
In my great country they would call you: schijnheilig, or a saint with a flashlight (get him?, probably not)
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O, duncan, ya wasn't there, now you are and up is my hair. Now leave again and I'll be faine (fine) |
duncan
Senior Member
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posted 03-20-2001 04:42 PM
First; i didn't say any thing about your signatures
second; i drink root beer and i like it with lots of ice cream. I don't think you drink ginger beer with it or i wouldn't want to try any way.
Ralph Duncan[This message has been edited by duncan (edited 03-21-2001).] |
Fox Atreides
Senior Member
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posted 03-20-2001 11:13 PM
You guys are mad, drinking beer is bad enough, but with icecream!?!?Hm, let's hold my temper. Another post, coming closer to 30 I hope. (That's the only reason I ever post here senior is a cool name) |
wurdsmiff
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posted 03-21-2001 07:36 AM
What's in a name? It's the content and quality of your posts which establish your credibility, quantity is a poor substitue.
....I wonder if Ted's still interested in changing our titles??.... This certainly seems to be one case where the title 'senior' is a little too mature.
Back to anagrams
...Fox Atreides = FORE!!!...Sad Exit??? |
Fox Atreides
Senior Member
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posted 03-21-2001 09:48 AM
O, fun anagrams, give me more, too stupid to come up with some myself.
O, and about the title stuff, da name does matter, you will like da great guy much better then da stupid guy, don't you?
So, a bad name can give you a depression wich is bad, while a good one can make you pride, which is good.
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-Have to think of one- |
Fox Atreides
Senior Member
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posted 03-21-2001 09:53 AM
O, and ox tes sdoesn't stand for that it stands for: Da Feri t.e. sox
t. e. stands for terrible engry
It's in orc language so I'll trasslate:The very terrible angry socks. Dont think I consist of a pair of socks now...... ------------------
-Have to think of one- |
wurdsmiff
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posted 03-21-2001 02:44 PM
Ah, you are insulted.
Please think now about how other people feel when your signatures contain references to those you address as 'stunties' or 'duncies', and how the only good ones are dead ones, or even 'O, duncan, ya wasn't there, now you are and up is my hair. Now leave again and I'll be faine'
Please realise that if you wish to be treated with respect, you must also give respect.
In insulting other people, you give a poor impression of yourself.
As you said
'So, a bad name can give you a depression wich is bad, while a good one can make you pride, which is good.' [This message has been edited by wurdsmiff (edited 03-21-2001).] |
Philip Davis
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posted 03-21-2001 04:20 PM
I'm going to throw my two penny's worth in here.Fox, as he says, is 13. He's stuck around CQ and been interested in it, which is laudable. I'm of the opinion that on the whole young people benefit from some encouragement and some understanding. He's tried to establish an identity for himself with his signatures. I find this completely understandable in a 13 year old. His signatures are not offensive, I don't personally find them amusing but that's of no great importance. I personal though AJR's comment about fox's signature was a touch rude which is why I supported Fox by saying that my signature was taken from a book. Fox appears to have confused AJR for Duncan. This is regretable and Fox should apologise but considering that no one appears to be able to do this simple thing these days perhaps the smiley is the best that can be expected (I apologised to someone online a while ago who then posted that this was a first in all his experience of newsgroups.) Now wurdsmiff is attacking Fox. I can see that this is because he wants to support Duncan but getting at a 13 year old is not the manner in which to do this. His reference to 'stunties' is clearly from a book and is meant comically. Whilst it probably is an insulting term I very much doubt that Fox was using it to be rude so much as to find a way to relate. In the end I think Fox want's to be included, and like many young people is trying out ways to do this. I feel some of the responses to him have been aimed at excluding him.  |
duncan
Senior Member
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posted 03-21-2001 06:08 PM
Here's my feelings on this whole topic.
Nationality, Age, or what ever escuse one can find at the time is NO reason nor excuse for rudeness of any sort.
Wurdsmiff in his post was not defending me but the concept that rudeness or disrespect is not exceptible on this site or for that matter any where at any time.
If someone is looking for ways to fit into a group maybe watching the people invovled is a much better way to start and a whole lot less embarrassing then being or even apearing to be insulting.
As far as i can tell Fox has not been put on a banned list. So he has along with many many others been excepted as a member and should allready know how to relate to this site.
We should not forget that what is ok for some activitys is deplorable in others and personel interaction may well be the hardest of all civilized mannerisms.Ralph Duncan
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Castle Duncan. |
Philip Davis
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posted 03-22-2001 01:07 AM
Ok I'll state it a little more simply. My reading of this thread is that the rudeness was not started by Fox but that he responded to it, albeit directing his response to the wrong person.
I see him as a victim of an insult, who having responded against that insult is now being attacked. I find this objectionable.Now the initial rudeness to Fox was minor, but I cannot find it in myself to read AJR post as anything other than a masked irritable comment. I understand AJR irritation with Fox's posts - I think most everything adolescents do is irritating (I happily eat lamb because it's not baby sheep but adolescent sheep) but, as is said there is no excuse for rudeness. However, whilst age is not an excuse for rudeness it is something which should be considered when dealing with that rudeness. Some other thing that might be considered are fairness, justice and balance. Some other thing which may help are taking care to read what is written. Support is not the same as defend.
Equating "I feel some of the responses to him have been aimed at excluding him." with "...been put on a banned list." is just bad hyperbole.
Actually Ralph I feel you have been an innocent victim who dealt with things very well. I felt obliged to comment when wurdsmiff put his comments in. [This message has been edited by Philip Davis (edited 03-22-2001).] |
AJR
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posted 03-22-2001 02:11 AM
I've been out of touch just briefly, and come back, only to see that my comments seem to have initiated a major debate.Firstly, what I wrote was not intended as rudeness or said in irritation, but placed as a straight forward comment. However, since I have provoked so much unpleasantness (albeit unintended), I apologise, not for what I said, but for the fact that it was taken the wrong way. Apologies, Fox, for upsetting you and causing you to be angry. Please don't take it out on Duncan, as I seem to be the initiator of this, not him.
Apologies Duncan, for causing you to be incorrectly insulted.
Apologies Philip, that my posting is considered to be a touch rude. Andrew
[This message has been edited by AJR (edited 03-22-2001).]
[This message has been edited by AJR (edited 03-22-2001).] |
wurdsmiff
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posted 03-22-2001 03:41 AM
I agree that Fox's interest should be encouraged, and yes he has been around for a while. However how many of his posts have included the subject matter of CQ? Since his initial postings regarding his project he has persisitently provided us with a variety of signatures, which cannot be interpreted as anything other than insulting. Whether that was deliberate or not, I actually suspect that his intent was humour, albeit misplaced.
Whilst for a while I have been content to sit back and hope that he would calm down and begin to show signs of an increased interest in castles or related topics, I cannot see that this has occurred.
Indeed I have found his postings to have grown in their offensiveness, and irrespective of whomever he had insulted, the nature of his posts show no signs of improving in their acceptability.
I posted my anagram as a strong warning of our potential to edit/delete/ban. My intention was to promote thought on his part in order that he adapt his approach.
My position on encouraging the young to participate and respond to our encouragement to develop their interest in castles has already been stated quite clearly on previous occasions, however Fox has taken things a little too far, innocently or not, and this had to be brought to his attention in a more blunt manner. I hope he responds positively.------------------
Demeure par la verite
Visit my revised web-site at
www.castlesontheweb.com/members/wurdsmiff/castles.htm Gordon.
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Philip Davis
unregistered
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posted 03-22-2001 05:25 AM
Thank you for your apology to me Andrew. |
Fox Atreides
Senior Member
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posted 03-22-2001 05:42 AM
Well, haven't read all da post completely, but get the point.
I indeed mixed up ajr and duncan, who already has my apologises or something.
Just wan't you to know none of my signatures were meant in an irritating or otherwise unpleasant way. Although I don;t think any of my signatures or letters were insulting at all, except the last one.
That you (can't remember who the you = at the moment) don't like my signatures is no problem, as a flying dutchman I always do strange things that not everyone likes.BTW, The question about the hanging was not for a project, I was just INTERESTED.
And to go on on that topic, this forum was for non castle related chat. But, I appreciate it you told me my talking fell in bad taste. I will try to change it. So, now the boring part is over, ya can start about beer again. Even with icecream. |
AJR
Senior Member
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posted 03-22-2001 06:02 AM
I went to edit my latest posting - to add a comment really, but by the time I'd written it, both Philip and Fox had written more, so I have decided to place the comment here instead.I wish to add that in my posting I did say that it was my OPINION, and made the point clear by repeating myself. I have a preference for "home-grown" signatures over those taken from books, just as I have a preference for red wine over white wine or roast lamb over curried lamb. I was stating MY preference - is one not permitted to do that without someone taking offence ? I don't have anything AGAINST signatures taken from books or poetry, and I certainly did NOT intend, in any shape or form, to cause offence.
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Fox Atreides
Senior Member
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posted 03-22-2001 06:28 AM
I can see your point, but I didn't like it. I just don't like to be critisized like that, I mean when I think you have a stupid face, I don't tell you either just because I like my face more then yours.
Now, I've re-readden the posts, I know why you think my posts to be insulting, In my first one, I called you stnties, and in the second one I said a stunty is a weird guy. I want to tell ya this was a mistake, I just didn't remember I called you guys stunties, which I will call back right at this moment.My excuses to everyone. |
Fox Atreides
Senior Member
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posted 03-22-2001 06:30 AM
Hey wow, now I am a senior member!
I guess I don't earn that title yet he?Well, anyway, I'm proud of it. Mister Fox Atreides senior. |
AJR
Senior Member
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posted 03-22-2001 06:41 AM
It was not meant as a criticism, I can assure you, but my apologies anyway. About my face - you can say what you like. I can accept positive criticism - but my face, I can't change. I don't like it myself, but it's the only one I've got, so I have to put up with it (not your problem of course, as you don't see it every day, as I do). Carry on Castling ,Fox. Andrew |
Fox Atreides
Senior Member
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posted 03-22-2001 10:27 AM
Right, I will.
BTW, (to show ya guys I haven't got a lack of interest, which is also showed by the bilions of books in my closet about (dutch) castles and my knowlige (I know, spelling is wrong) of castles in general)
Where did richard lionheart (or richie the first) live? In his castle in france or in england? |
wurdsmiff
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posted 03-22-2001 11:28 AM
Fox, I am sorry that I had to be so blunt in making my point, and am glad that you've decided to stay with us.
Perhaps in future you can share some of your knowledge on Dutch Castles a little more frequently?
The answer to your question is that Kings had many castles and moved between them. When Richard was in France he built and resided at Chateau Gaillard, and you'll find plenty of data on it in the Individual castles Forum where it has been discussed a few times. I recently posted an old pencil drawing of it in the Photo archive.
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Fox Atreides
Senior Member
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posted 03-22-2001 11:34 AM
Gaillard was the one I meant. (I do know SOMEthing )
Ever heard of castle (or actually ruin) Brederode?, Lays close to amsterdam.
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wurdsmiff
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posted 03-22-2001 01:21 PM
Yes, I'd read about it on Mot's castle Page http://www.castles.nl/brede/brede.html
Sometimes ruins like that stimulate the imagination more than surviving mansionised or even intact castles, which is why I like mottes so much.
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Fox Atreides
Senior Member
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posted 03-23-2001 04:09 AM
Ah, Well, there's a nice stiry about the ruin, I read it when I was 7?
I can't find it anymore but I think it was about a treasure.
Near my place there are no castles, only great stonehouses, Freylemaborg, suppose you never heard of that one, been there once, my parents got married there.One of the best castles I've ever been to are Bentheim and Hedingham. really cool |
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