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Topic: All's quiet on the castle front
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castleuk
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posted 10-03-2001 05:55 PM
Hi castle people
As i watched the tv on September 11, i thought what i was seeing would change the world but what a change, how can it cause all this? were we living on such a knife edge but didn't know it?
Chris CastleUK |
duncan
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posted 10-04-2001 09:05 AM
 
Some of the moderaters had extra work in our professions due to the effects of the attack. Although still here we can't spend as much time on the site as we would like.
A good discussion might be a needed break from the current events of the day. |
Peter
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posted 10-04-2001 04:30 PM
Perhaps so my dear Sir.
I'm sure many of us take an interest in many aspects of history, and other types of historic buildings ?
And although we see so much destruction (of both our historic past, and our planet), we don't seem to give too much consideration to the many items that are saved.
In fortified sites alone, which amount to many tens of thousands. It still amazes me just how much survives. Are lived in, used as museums, hotels even, etc.
How many are still being rebuilt, revamped, or merely consiladated in some fashion.
All this when money could be perhaps spent on more pressing items .. health, education, saving the planet !
Because hand in hand with any monies that are available, there mist be an active interest in saving them. Not just that even, but bringing them into modern life in a role that a greater public can be aware of ....
.... and then there is ??????? |
duncan
Senior Member
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posted 10-11-2001 01:24 PM
Every year sees a large amount of the older crafts disapearing or the sources for supplys going out of buisness. The world does'nt
allow the time for people to sit and weave, spin, make lace or many other things that now can be bought in a store.
How many people put fresh milk on the hearth for use in bakeing the next day?
Know where Rennin comes from or what it's use has been for untold ages?
Make cheese?
Their own soap?
How many of the people that use Lime know it kills bacteria and will prevent rot in fibers such as straw or flax before its processed? Or its used in cooking and canning for the same reason and others?
I spoke to a sword maker on the phone and found his hand made blades were cut in a C-N-C machine. This is all too often the case now a days.
The amount of bad written infomation based on a persons or a large groups ill informed conceptions of what the past was like does'nt
help those who are trying to recapture some almost lost bit of knowledge.
In todays world i think its amazing we still have so many castles that serve other purposes then the money aspect.
The fact that we do have castles to me indicates there is hope for them and for the older crafts to be around a little longer and if the amount of people who have asked about our clasess is an indication, then i'm sure at least some of the crafts will continue.
As Peter has said so well.....
And then there is?
[This message has been edited by duncan (edited 10-15-2001).] |
Levan
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posted 10-15-2001 12:01 PM
You may have wondered about my absence over the last few weeks. My main client is a major auditing firm and therefore had a large presence in the World Trade Centre. Several of my US collegues, and indeed some UK collegues working in the WTC were lost in the attack. Apart from the most important emotional and family impact of this attack, considerable areas of business deliverables have been also affected.Let's hope that folks from all around the world manage to pull together in overcoming the futility of this kind of action. Maybe even, in a small way, that we at CastleQuest will also be able to play our part. At very least, through our common interests in castles and their construction we are developing an understanding of the contribution of people from different cultures can make upon the architectural heritage we share. Levan |
Gordon
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posted 10-15-2001 08:50 PM
My sympathies on the loss of friends and colleagues Levan.
As to the sentiment, I can only agree.
History has many lessons to teach, let us hope that we are not led into a similarly futile war of attrition as has happened before, and that the peoples of the world can eventually learn to live at peace in a constructive and co-operative manner.
Common intersts, sharing and mutual support are the building blocks of lasting friendships. The world would be a better place if folks looked to these positive aspects of relationships, rather than concentrating on their differences. Unfortunately there will always be a few insular groups who can only see as far as their own desires, and try to wreck it for everyone else by playing on their fears. Such is the nature of terrorism.
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Peter
Member
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posted 10-20-2001 04:46 PM
Make the best of this tonight.
I agree with Duncan.
But are all these old crafts vanishing ?
I think not in many cases. Anita & I like visiting Craft Fairs & Antique Fairs. And there are always hundreds of people willing to buy hand crafted ware.
Progress has always been there. So, in my mind even the old crafts have been 'modernised', be it tens or hundreds of years ago.
We have a problem here, in that we can only base what we know on what we are fed, what we see, etc.
We base our assumptions on what there is, where we live. So the U.K., America, Australia, and other like countries are no where the same as some European countries.
The other thing is cost.
I make wine by the gallon. I have also made cider.
The last time, a few years ago, it took me hours and hours. I worked out that those two gallons must have cost me £4 a pint !!!!!!!
Of course it tasted great (damn well better had !), but what else could I have been doing ?
I think you get the gist of where I am going. Which at the moment is to try some 1996 Elderberry wine I bottled this afternoon.
It's all fun .. but bloody hard work folks. |
Gordon
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posted 10-20-2001 05:13 PM
So...how much does that cost per glass, and how much of that do you intend to 'spend' tonight?------------------
'Demeure par la verite'
Visit; Gordon's Scottish Castles Resource Page |
duncan
Senior Member
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posted 10-21-2001 01:12 PM
I agree Peter that in most cases perception is influenced by where a person lives and what they eat, see, read, ect.
When a company like ours is based on many of the older crafts as i mentioned and others that i didn't, with a suply and customer base from all over the world, we get a pretty good idea of in what direction these old crafts are heading.
One of the most enjoyed faires we attended was in the UK at Clay Cross not too long ago.
As to the concept of the modern products being the same as hand made, that is a discussion that has been going on for hundreds of years as you stated so well. Cidar is fun but Wine by the gallon, now there is a craft well worth preserving!! [This message has been edited by duncan (edited 10-21-2001).] | |
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