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shot285 I am building a castle for a product design class in college. I need 16 different things to put in the 16 squares that make up the interior area of the castle. Right now all I have is a well, a guillotine, an anvil, and a prison. I need to finish this by tuesday so please respond as soon as you can.
Fox Atreides Acyually a Guillotine didn't exsist in the middle ages yet, I don't know if your castle has to be from that period of course, but if it should be in the middle ages a gallow might be a better choise.
also, in a castle you'd find a stable and kitchen, dog kennels, quarters for the soldiers and maybe someplace for guests. You could think of a lot of interior thinghs form that right
Good luck on your project.
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-Matt-
The world can be as you want, when you are as the world wants you.
Merlin I think even a gallow is misplaced inside a castle - I never heard of one beeing placed inside the walls. At least in central europe, gallows normaly were placed on a hill nearby the castle, but only if the lord living there had all rights of high justice (or 'Blutsgerichtsbarkeit', meaning "blood justice") - the right to decide about life and death.
Gordon I concur with Merlin, Gallowhill is a common enough name in Scotland, and it usually indicates the site of executions, normally some distance away from the castle. Some instances have been noted of hangings from the outside walls or gateways, but imagine how unpleasant that would be after a few days or months, since often corpses were simply left to hang. A site away from the castle would certainly improve the air quality at home for the Lord!
Buttery (wine store),pantry ( bread store), brewery, hall, lord's chamber, garderobe, gatehouse, chapel...just a few things you might want to include. Take a look through the glossary linked at the foot of the page for ideas.
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Erik Schmidt Gordon, it's interesting you say that the 'Buttery' is for wine storage. Do you know the reason for this or how widespread the term was? From which period?
I've seen the term on a plan before, but had naturally thought it was for storing perishable foods such a butter.
Erik
Gordon Yes, it's from the French bouteillerie, 'bottle store', pantry also deriving from the French, paneterie, bread store...though I'm sure the pantry was used for other perishable goods, and the buttery for beer, and other liquids. I think this topic arose some time ago, and was explained by Philip, but I've checked my source, Chris Tabraham's Scotland's Castles, since my French spelling was neffer that gid!
Presumably since the terms are French in source, I imagine that the term dates from around the Norman conquest, and I'm pretty certain that it's widespread in English usage
when less specific terms are used for 'wine cellar' due to a variety of items being stored.It's worth remembering that French was the spoken language of the Scots nobility well into the 14thc, Latin the written language of the clerics, and Scots (or English) & Gaelic the spoken word of
the general population.
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[This message has been edited by Gordon (edited 11-20-2001).]
Erik Schmidt So that's where it comes from. I should have guessed, so many words derive from the french.
I must say I've never heard it used here in Australia in the modern English.
Thanks,
Erik

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T O P I C R E V I E W
shot285	I am building a castle for a product design class in college. I need 16 different things to put in the 16 squares that make up the interior area of the castle. Right now all I have is a well, a guillotine, an anvil, and a prison. I need to finish this by tuesday so please respond as soon as you can.
Fox Atreides	Acyually a Guillotine didn't exsist in the middle ages yet, I don't know if your castle has to be from that period of course, but if it should be in the middle ages a gallow might be a better choise. also, in a castle you'd find a stable and kitchen, dog kennels, quarters for the soldiers and maybe someplace for guests. You could think of a lot of interior thinghs form that right Good luck on your project. ------------------ -Matt- *The world can be as you want, when you are as the world wants you.*
Merlin	I think even a gallow is misplaced inside a castle - I never heard of one beeing placed inside the walls. At least in central europe, gallows normaly were placed on a hill nearby the castle, but only if the lord living there had all rights of high justice (or 'Blutsgerichtsbarkeit', meaning "blood justice") - the right to decide about life and death.
Gordon	I concur with Merlin, Gallowhill is a common enough name in Scotland, and it usually indicates the site of executions, normally some distance away from the castle. Some instances have been noted of hangings from the outside walls or gateways, but imagine how unpleasant that would be after a few days or months, since often corpses were simply left to hang. A site away from the castle would certainly improve the air quality at home for the Lord! Buttery (wine store),pantry ( bread store), brewery, hall, lord's chamber, garderobe, gatehouse, chapel...just a few things you might want to include. Take a look through the glossary linked at the foot of the page for ideas. ------------------ 'Demeure par la verite' Visit; Gordon's Scottish Castles Resource Page
Erik Schmidt	Gordon, it's interesting you say that the 'Buttery' is for wine storage. Do you know the reason for this or how widespread the term was? From which period? I've seen the term on a plan before, but had naturally thought it was for storing perishable foods such a butter. Erik
Gordon	Yes, it's from the French bouteillerie, 'bottle store', pantry also deriving from the French, paneterie, bread store...though I'm sure the pantry was used for other perishable goods, and the buttery for beer, and other liquids. I think this topic arose some time ago, and was explained by Philip, but I've checked my source, Chris Tabraham's Scotland's Castles, since my French spelling was neffer that gid! Presumably since the terms are French in source, I imagine that the term dates from around the Norman conquest, and I'm pretty certain that it's widespread in English usage when less specific terms are used for 'wine cellar' due to a variety of items being stored.It's worth remembering that French was the spoken language of the Scots nobility well into the 14thc, Latin the written language of the clerics, and Scots (or English) & Gaelic the spoken word of the general population. ------------------ 'Demeure par la verite' Visit; Gordon's Scottish Castles Resource Page [This message has been edited by Gordon (edited 11-20-2001).]
Erik Schmidt	So that's where it comes from. I should have guessed, so many words derive from the french. I must say I've never heard it used here in Australia in the modern English. Thanks, Erik