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Craig Churm I need to know some imformation about how did castle design change in response to changes in weapons!!!
I need the imformation by Wednesday 12th of June.
[This message has been edited by Craig Churm (edited 05-21-2002).]
Merlin Try the search modus. This is just one of the many discussions we had here about this topic:
http://www.castlesontheweb.com/quest/Forum9/HTML/000113.html
Craig Churm I need more imformation on different weapons than that but it was helpful. If anyone has anymore please tell me!!!
Erik Schmidt 'en beck'!
A french term meaning to have a beak. Many towers and round keeps were equipped with a pointed projection all the way up the side most exposed to the projectiles from siege engines and later cannon, see Chateau Gaillard; http://perso.wanadoo.fr/perso.apm/gaillard/cgaillard.html
Triangular keeps serve the same purpose, see Beaucaire, France; http://www.casteland.com/pfr/chateau/languedoc/gard/beaucaire/beaucaire_hist.htm
As sapping, ramming and picking techniques improved, builders began to favour the round towers and keeps over the square form as the corners were vulnerable to attack using these techiniques.
A lot of changes happened in the architecture of the keeps(as well as walls), mostly to do with flanking. That is, to try to eliminate any places along the base of the walls where the enemy could be safe from attack from within, and thus allow them to demolish the wall.
Craig Churm Are these in English.
Fox Atreides Also, to have some protection against cannons, walls and towers were not built simple and straight anymore, like this: |

But the lower part would be slightly diagonal to divert cannonballs, like this: /

Hope you get the idea

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-Matt-
The world can be as you want, when you are as the world wants you.
[This message has been edited by Fox Atreides (edited 05-22-2002).]
Erik Schmidt Craig, the links I gave were just ones I came up with doing a quick search. The first one is good because it contains plans of the castle which show the 'en beck' form I mentioned. The second is just for the photo of the triangular keep.
If you want to search for English pages about those castles, try using this search engine; http://www.google.com/
but instead of 'chateau', use the term 'castle'.
Merlin Fox: You're right about the shape of the walls, but this style of construction was already developed during the crusades (11th - 13th centuries, long before the first cannons appeared). Walls with an oblique outer surface are...
• more secure against undermining
• more difficult to take with ladders
Fox Atreides Hm yeah you're right... the first purpose was indeed anti-undermine..
I blame it on the history classes (which are never about any castles...)
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-Matt-
The world can be as you want, when you are as the world wants you.

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T O P I C R E V I E W
Craig Churm	I need to know some imformation about how did castle design change in response to changes in weapons!!! I need the imformation by Wednesday 12th of June. [This message has been edited by Craig Churm (edited 05-21-2002).]
Merlin	Try the search modus. This is just one of the many discussions we had here about this topic: http://www.castlesontheweb.com/quest/Forum9/HTML/000113.html
Craig Churm	I need more imformation on different weapons than that but it was helpful. If anyone has anymore please tell me!!!
Erik Schmidt	'en beck'! A french term meaning to have a beak. Many towers and round keeps were equipped with a pointed projection all the way up the side most exposed to the projectiles from siege engines and later cannon, see Chateau Gaillard; http://perso.wanadoo.fr/perso.apm/gaillard/cgaillard.html Triangular keeps serve the same purpose, see Beaucaire, France; http://www.casteland.com/pfr/chateau/languedoc/gard/beaucaire/beaucaire_hist.htm As sapping, ramming and picking techniques improved, builders began to favour the round towers and keeps over the square form as the corners were vulnerable to attack using these techiniques. A lot of changes happened in the architecture of the keeps(as well as walls), mostly to do with flanking. That is, to try to eliminate any places along the base of the walls where the enemy could be safe from attack from within, and thus allow them to demolish the wall.
Craig Churm	Are these in English.
Fox Atreides	Also, to have some protection against cannons, walls and towers were not built simple and straight anymore, like this: \| But the lower part would be slightly diagonal to divert cannonballs, like this: / Hope you get the idea ------------------ -Matt- *The world can be as you want, when you are as the world wants you.* [This message has been edited by Fox Atreides (edited 05-22-2002).]
Erik Schmidt	Craig, the links I gave were just ones I came up with doing a quick search. The first one is good because it contains plans of the castle which show the 'en beck' form I mentioned. The second is just for the photo of the triangular keep. If you want to search for English pages about those castles, try using this search engine; http://www.google.com/ but instead of 'chateau', use the term 'castle'.
Merlin	Fox: You're right about the shape of the walls, but this style of construction was already developed during the crusades (11th - 13th centuries, long before the first cannons appeared). Walls with an oblique outer surface are... • more secure against undermining • more difficult to take with ladders
Fox Atreides	Hm yeah you're right... the first purpose was indeed anti-undermine.. I blame it on the history classes (which are never about any castles...) ------------------ -Matt- *The world can be as you want, when you are as the world wants you.*