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Cari Hey guys!
I was wondering if you had any information on *hidden* passages, rooms, dungeons, or anything else hidden in a castle. I'm doing a research project for English. (I'm a senior.) I have to have some kind of thesis, also. Thanks for any help you can give me!!
Catch ya later,
Cari "Shrew"
Erik Schmidt Hi Cari,
I would suggest you first of all find out what you are trying to write about. You should firstly define your subject, 'the castle', to find out exactly what it is.
In strict terms, it is a fortified dwelling of a local knight or lord (land owner), and as such does not include palaces, mansions, manor houses, forts, fortified garrions and the like. Castles were pretty much confined to the period from about the 10th century to the late 15th, and are strongly linked with the existence of feudalism.
Try your local library for general books on castles.
Aslo, the word 'dungeon' is derived from the French term 'Donjon', which means the 'keep'. The dungeons of hollywood, the dark corridors and prison cells deep in the bowels of a castle are mostly a myth. Prisoners were seldom kept in castles during the time indicated above, and when so, usually they were of high rank and given good accommodation and food.
OK, as for secret passages and rooms, try using the search engine at the top right of the page and you should find some information from previous posts.
Such things are unfortunately still a secret today, and you will find few examples.
Erik
Cari Thanks for your help, Erik. I appreciate it.
*Cari
Levan South Wingfield Manor in Derbyshire (UK) had a secret escape passage. This house was one of the 'castles' used as prison for Mary Queen of Scots.
I can also think of several Scottish castles that had dungeons or prisons. The first few that come to mind are:
- Rothesay Castle (Isle of Bute, Argyll) which has a bottle pit;
- Threave Castle (Castle Douglas, Dumfries and Galloway), a basement prison;
- Caelaverock (Dumfries and Galloway), which has a prison tower;
- Castle Levan (Strathclyde) had a basement used as a prison - where Marion Montgomery was starved to death.
No doubt there are many more.
Levan
[This message has been edited by Levan (edited 11-04-2002).]
Cari Levan,
Thank you so much! You are amazing! This will help incredibly!! Keep up the great work!!!!
*Cari
Erik Schmidt Did you try using the search facility to search the old posts? The link's at the top right of the page.
I recall us covering these subjects before, so you should find some more examples listed in previous posts.
Erik
ipflo hi
Cochem Castle (Rheinland-Pfalz in Germany) has a secret passage, which goes in the town the guide says (but they didn't check it, because it is too dangerous to go inside, because of danger of collapsing). During the tour of the castle, the guides show you the entrance of the passageway.
Cochem Castle isn't the only castle with secret rooms and hidden ways,there are several others. Otto Piper has in his standardbook Burgenkunde (~Castle-logica) written a whole capital about secret passages and so)

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T O P I C R E V I E W
Cari	Hey guys! I was wondering if you had any information on hidden passages, rooms, dungeons, or anything else hidden in a castle. I'm doing a research project for English. (I'm a senior.) I have to have some kind of thesis, also. Thanks for any help you can give me!! Catch ya later, Cari "Shrew"
Erik Schmidt	Hi Cari, I would suggest you first of all find out what you are trying to write about. You should firstly define your subject, 'the castle', to find out exactly what it is. In strict terms, it is a fortified dwelling of a local knight or lord (land owner), and as such does not include palaces, mansions, manor houses, forts, fortified garrions and the like. Castles were pretty much confined to the period from about the 10th century to the late 15th, and are strongly linked with the existence of feudalism. Try your local library for general books on castles. Aslo, the word 'dungeon' is derived from the French term 'Donjon', which means the 'keep'. The dungeons of hollywood, the dark corridors and prison cells deep in the bowels of a castle are mostly a myth. Prisoners were seldom kept in castles during the time indicated above, and when so, usually they were of high rank and given good accommodation and food. OK, as for secret passages and rooms, try using the search engine at the top right of the page and you should find some information from previous posts. Such things are unfortunately still a secret today, and you will find few examples. Erik
Cari	Thanks for your help, Erik. I appreciate it. *Cari
Levan	South Wingfield Manor in Derbyshire (UK) had a secret escape passage. This house was one of the 'castles' used as prison for Mary Queen of Scots. I can also think of several Scottish castles that had dungeons or prisons. The first few that come to mind are: - Rothesay Castle (Isle of Bute, Argyll) which has a bottle pit; - Threave Castle (Castle Douglas, Dumfries and Galloway), a basement prison; - Caelaverock (Dumfries and Galloway), which has a prison tower; - Castle Levan (Strathclyde) had a basement used as a prison - where Marion Montgomery was starved to death. No doubt there are many more. Levan [This message has been edited by Levan (edited 11-04-2002).]
Cari	Levan, Thank you so much! You are amazing! This will help incredibly!! Keep up the great work!!!! *Cari
Erik Schmidt	Did you try using the search facility to search the old posts? The link's at the top right of the page. I recall us covering these subjects before, so you should find some more examples listed in previous posts. Erik
ipflo	hi Cochem Castle (Rheinland-Pfalz in Germany) has a secret passage, which goes in the town the guide says (but they didn't check it, because it is too dangerous to go inside, because of danger of collapsing). During the tour of the castle, the guides show you the entrance of the passageway. Cochem Castle isn't the only castle with secret rooms and hidden ways,there are several others. Otto Piper has in his standardbook Burgenkunde (~Castle-logica) written a whole capital about secret passages and so)