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hatice Yes, I’m searching for castles that were built to control areas in where not inhabited before. The single building aim must be expand the country borders and conquer new lands. It don't have to be in U.K. it can be all over the world.Thank you
Merlin As most parts of medieval Europe were one big wood, a clearing was the first thing to get new land. The allowance (or order) to do so came directly from the king or earl. In many cases, the centre of such a clearing was a castle, inhabited by a minor lord and his family, with some settlements around it, inhabited by the peasants under his command. Hundreds of castles were built this way to enlarge a kingdom, esp. in the 12th/13th century in the Alps, the Jura, the Vosges and the black forrest. The german term for this kind of castle is "Rodungsburg" (clearing-castle).
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Marko Another area where this happened was in Spain during the Reconquest. A large part of the Iberian peninsula was under Muslim rule. When Christian forces reconquered parts of the land, all the Muslim inhabitants fled or were expelled, so large areas became unpopulated. To keep control over these areas the Christian forces built their castles. Also damaged Muslim castles were rebuilt and taken into use again. To repopulate these areas the Christian rulers also moved peasants from villages in the Christian north to deserted villages. This Reconquest took place between 711 an 1492 AD.
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Merlin Well, 711 AD is a bit too eary for the Reconquista. This was the year when the spanish kingdom of the Visigoths fell under the attack of the Maurs. Later they even tried to attack the kingdom of the the Francs on the other side of the pyrenees but were defeated by Karl Martell, the grandfather of Charlemagne, in the battle of Poitiers in 732 AD. Charlemagne himself then tried to attack the muslim reign in Spain but wasn't very succsesfull. Nevertheless, in 795 AD he could establish the "spanish mark" in the northern parts of the country, which became the origin of the later spanish kindoms of Navarra, Aragon, Leon and Castilia. So, as one could state that the Reconquista started as early as the 8th century, it realy went forward after the battle of Las Navas de Toloas in 1212 AD, when the armys of France, Navarra, Castilia and Aragon fought together against the Maurs. The catholic church declared the war in spain to be a crusade - which ended on January 2nd in 1492 AD with the fall of Granada.
bent one maurs? who are maurs? Are you talking about moors?
phillyphan58136 the maurs or moors were muslims
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bent one oh! okay.
When you read about this period it seems that everyone(crusades) is out fighting muslims. About how much of the known world at that time was muslim? If you could draw a religion map of the eastern hemisphere where would the Christians be and where would the Muslims be?
Paul Hi Bent one, I found this for you. http://www.al-bab.com/arab/maps/maps2.htm
I hope it helps you,
Paul of Paul's castle. http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/castles/
bent one excellent! the site you suggested clarified things. while I was looking through I saw references to the 4th crusade. how many were there? I am familiar with one where children marched to jerusalem but I am not really familiar with all of them. crusades were just another name for holy war right?
kind of like modern day Jihad except it was the other way around the english were trying to protect jerusalem because Jesus was crucified there. Kind of like Mecca where Muhammad ascended. two places of great signifigance in the histories of different religions.
Merlin It's by far not as easy as that. Jerusalem is one of the most important cities not only to the christians, but also to the jews and the muslims. To the jews, because it was their capital city since thousands of years and the temple built by their king Salomon once stood in its centre. To the muslims, because they believe that Muhammad went to his ride to heaven from a rock on the very same place.
The reasons for the crusades were many, and it was not only the english who went to Palestine in the 11th to the 13th century, but people from all over europe. The "childrens crusade" that you refer to happend during the 1090's and never came to Jerusalem. They died of hunger on the way or were sold as slaves when they tried to pass the Bosporus.
The crusades were not only a war beteween christians and muslims, but also between the armys from europe, the byzantine empire, arabs, turks, and vikings from southern italy...
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bent one thank you sir!
Paul There were nine crusades in all although some say that Ronald Reagan started the tenth in 1983?
Take a look at this. http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/N/Ni/Ninth_Crusade.htm
Regards, Paul of Paul's castle. http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/castles/

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hatice	Yes, I’m searching for castles that were built to control areas in where not inhabited before. The single building aim must be expand the country borders and conquer new lands. It don't have to be in U.K. it can be all over the world.Thank you
Merlin	As most parts of medieval Europe were one big wood, a clearing was the first thing to get new land. The allowance (or order) to do so came directly from the king or earl. In many cases, the centre of such a clearing was a castle, inhabited by a minor lord and his family, with some settlements around it, inhabited by the peasants under his command. Hundreds of castles were built this way to enlarge a kingdom, esp. in the 12th/13th century in the Alps, the Jura, the Vosges and the black forrest. The german term for this kind of castle is "Rodungsburg" (clearing-castle). ------------------
Marko	Another area where this happened was in Spain during the Reconquest. A large part of the Iberian peninsula was under Muslim rule. When Christian forces reconquered parts of the land, all the Muslim inhabitants fled or were expelled, so large areas became unpopulated. To keep control over these areas the Christian forces built their castles. Also damaged Muslim castles were rebuilt and taken into use again. To repopulate these areas the Christian rulers also moved peasants from villages in the Christian north to deserted villages. This Reconquest took place between 711 an 1492 AD. ------------------ "But round about the castle there began to grow a hedge of thorns, which every year became higher...." Visit my website at http://www.castles.nl/
Merlin	Well, 711 AD is a bit too eary for the Reconquista. This was the year when the spanish kingdom of the Visigoths fell under the attack of the Maurs. Later they even tried to attack the kingdom of the the Francs on the other side of the pyrenees but were defeated by Karl Martell, the grandfather of Charlemagne, in the battle of Poitiers in 732 AD. Charlemagne himself then tried to attack the muslim reign in Spain but wasn't very succsesfull. Nevertheless, in 795 AD he could establish the "spanish mark" in the northern parts of the country, which became the origin of the later spanish kindoms of Navarra, Aragon, Leon and Castilia. So, as one could state that the Reconquista started as early as the 8th century, it realy went forward after the battle of Las Navas de Toloas in 1212 AD, when the armys of France, Navarra, Castilia and Aragon fought together against the Maurs. The catholic church declared the war in spain to be a crusade - which ended on January 2nd in 1492 AD with the fall of Granada.
bent one	maurs? who are maurs? Are you talking about moors?
phillyphan58136	the maurs or moors were muslims [This message has been edited by phillyphan58136 (edited 05-07-2005).]
bent one	oh! okay. When you read about this period it seems that everyone(crusades) is out fighting muslims. About how much of the known world at that time was muslim? If you could draw a religion map of the eastern hemisphere where would the Christians be and where would the Muslims be?
Paul	Hi Bent one, I found this for you. http://www.al-bab.com/arab/maps/maps2.htm I hope it helps you, Paul of Paul's castle. http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/castles/
bent one	excellent! the site you suggested clarified things. while I was looking through I saw references to the 4th crusade. how many were there? I am familiar with one where children marched to jerusalem but I am not really familiar with all of them. crusades were just another name for holy war right? kind of like modern day Jihad except it was the other way around the english were trying to protect jerusalem because Jesus was crucified there. Kind of like Mecca where Muhammad ascended. two places of great signifigance in the histories of different religions.
Merlin	It's by far not as easy as that. Jerusalem is one of the most important cities not only to the christians, but also to the jews and the muslims. To the jews, because it was their capital city since thousands of years and the temple built by their king Salomon once stood in its centre. To the muslims, because they believe that Muhammad went to his ride to heaven from a rock on the very same place. The reasons for the crusades were many, and it was not only the english who went to Palestine in the 11th to the 13th century, but people from all over europe. The "childrens crusade" that you refer to happend during the 1090's and never came to Jerusalem. They died of hunger on the way or were sold as slaves when they tried to pass the Bosporus. The crusades were not only a war beteween christians and muslims, but also between the armys from europe, the byzantine empire, arabs, turks, and vikings from southern italy... [This message has been edited by Merlin (edited 05-09-2005).]
bent one	thank you sir!
Paul	There were nine crusades in all although some say that Ronald Reagan started the tenth in 1983? Take a look at this. http://www.absoluteastronomy.com/encyclopedia/N/Ni/Ninth_Crusade.htm Regards, Paul of Paul's castle. http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/castles/