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Topic: "The Castles and Stronghouses of Ireland"
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Bluewater Senior Member
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posted 04-17-2000 04:12 PM
My copy of this wonderful book is on loan, and I need a small favor. Could someone look up Clonburren Castle (Tower House) for me and tell me what info is listed? I know it's in there, I just forgot to write it down before I sent her off. Thanks.Regards, Bluewater |
Geoff Senior Member
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posted 04-18-2000 02:41 PM
I copied this verbatim:-CLONBURREN, Laois S2574, (page 54) "On a low rock is a tower 14m high to the wall-walk at which level are corbels for former corner and mid-wall machicolations. It measures 12.6m by 9.5m over walls 2.3m thick up to the level of the fourth storey vault. Above the walls are only 1.3m thick and have two light windows. Some of the loops below are roundels or crosses. There are smaller chambers in the thick east wall below a fourth storey walk." There is also a small photo which shows a very plain rectangular tower. |
Bluewater Senior Member
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posted 04-18-2000 03:29 PM
Thanks Geoff. Hmm. That's strange maybe. I was talking to Savoy about tower house's in Ireland, and Clonburren is supposedly nearby to him. One we're talking about is 64 some odd feet or so high however, which makes me wonder if this is a different tower (the one in the book works out to 45 feet or so). Thanks for the post!Regards, Bluewater [This message has been edited by Bluewater (edited 04-20-2000).] |
Bluewater Senior Member
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posted 04-18-2000 04:24 PM
Whoops. Forgot some stuff in the past post. Savoy's castle (Ballytarsna) is in Tipperary, which isn't TOO far from Laois...I don't know what he meant by "near" (Savoy is out of town right now...I should prolly ask him when he gets back lol). The info I got from him on Clonburren is that it is indeed a pretty much square tower house (30 x 40' roughly) and is 63' high. Vaulting has partially collapsed. The mystery goes on...either one of em is off on dimensions or there's two Clonburren tower houses.Bluewater [This message has been edited by Bluewater (edited 04-20-2000).] |
Philip Davis unregistered
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posted 04-19-2000 11:48 AM
Mike Salter is prone to errors in my experience, particularly with regards to numbers. These are usually inaccurate map references, usual where he inverts numbers (ie 123 becomes 321) but I've also seen him give the same map reference to two different sites. I've also seen him make other typographical errors of the sort that really ought to be picked up in proof reading. I always check his map references against the appropriate ordnance survey map. However, Mike Salter does try to produce comprehensive books which are reasonably priced and readily accessable and his work has to be generally commended even with it's errors.------------------ Neurotics build castles in the air, psychotics live in them, Psychiatrists charge the rent, art therapists do the interior design and nurses clean out the garderobes! http://www.castlesontheweb.com/members/philipdavis/index.html |
Bluewater Senior Member
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posted 04-19-2000 01:15 PM
He speaks! I figured you were correct Savoy, as you live near it. Now, another question (Savoy might be the only one that can answer this unless someone else here has been to it); is the photo in the guide the same? I can't wait to get my book back so I can check it out. Do you know anything more on it's history Savoy? Regards, Bluewater |