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posted 01-31-2004 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mudriders   Click Here to Email mudriders     Edit/Delete Message
I am lookin for information on a Count Gregory Horr(Hore) in Ireland.His castle was know as Castle Gregory? I have looked on line. But I have had no luck finding an info on this Castle. My Mom past away last month and we found this info in her belongings. Horr was my mothers maiden name. I was woundering if this was some family legend or a real place.

posted 02-01-2004 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter   Click Here to Email Peter     Edit/Delete Message
not had time for a proper look as yet.
But I did find this reference;

"Lord Walter Fitzgerald, Cannon Carrigan and 'Philip Hore' did much work to record and describe those of Kildare and Leix, Ossory and Wexford" ... end of quote.

If there was any castle connected with the name. It is more likely to be in one of those area's.

posted 02-01-2004 11:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mudriders   Click Here to Email mudriders     Edit/Delete Message
Peter, Thank you for the infomation. I will look into these.

posted 02-02-2004 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter   Click Here to Email Peter     Edit/Delete Message
I very quick look of the database threw up this name;
born .. about 1377, Alianor Hore
of Castle of the Pole

This is no doubt a name that has long gone out of use. But it does gives us the name of county Wexford again.
Another nice little mystery to solve ?

posted 02-10-2004 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Rory   Click Here to Email Rory     Edit/Delete Message

Castlegregory is a village in county Kerry in southwest Ireland. It is located on the north side of the Dingle Peninsula and there are some remains of a castle there, though not much - mostly just displaced architectural fragments.
According to 'The Houses of Kerry' (by Valerie Bary, ISBN 0 946538 08 5, page 68-9) it was built by Gregory Hoare in about 1550. She doesn't mention that he held the title 'Count' at the time and I'd be surprised if he did - this would be a very unusual title to have in 16th century Ireland. Anyway, Bary goes on to state:
"Bitter feuds were waged between Hoare and his neighbours, the Moores and the Husseys, so that when his son, Hugh, fell in love with Eileen Moore, it was necessary to keep it secret from old Gregory. Embittered by the loss of a new court case against the Moores, he was stricken by paralysis and all his faculties impaired. Hugh determined to marry Eileen in May, 1566, but Gregory realised what had been done and, meeting the wedding party at the door, fell dead with rage. It was an unlucky marriage. Hugh's sympathies were with the Englsih settlers, while Eileen's were with their overlord, Fitzgerald, Earl of Desmond. Their only surviving child, Marian Hoare, fell in love with Walter Hussey and they were married at the sudden death of their parents. Thus Walter Hussey became Lord of Castlegregory, Minard, the Magherees and Ballybeggan.... Their only son, Walter, dies defending Minard Castle in 1649; Castlegregory was fired and blown up at the same time. In 1667 the estate belonged to Thomas Welsted..."

I'm not sure where Bary gets all her information about the site as she provides no references, but I will check other sources and post any further info I find. In the meantime, Castlegregory (the village) is well worth a visit if you're in the country - It's about 17 miles west of Tralee and is beautifully situated between the mountains and the sea. Unfortunately, the castle isn't there anymore...

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posted 02-11-2004 03:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter   Click Here to Email Peter     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the info Rory;
certainly makes for interesting reading.
Dropped dead with rage !

posted 02-21-2004 12:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mudriders   Click Here to Email mudriders     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks to Peter and Rory. We found the information very interesting and enjoyable. Thanks and Good bye.

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