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posted 08-06-2006 09:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eve429   Click Here to Email Eve429     Edit/Delete Message
I am a desendent of Alured de Valer. I understand that he was given land for his services at the Battle of Hastings. Does anyone know where that land is and is there a castle?

Thank you in advance.


posted 08-06-2006 07:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Hello Eve,I believe that the name "de Valer" became Waller later in the period after the conquest.
The name possibly originated from Norman/French meaning "from the valley".

Almost all the Wallers in the world are descendants of the people listed below. (see origins of the Wallers on the English Page)
Generation 1, Alured de Valer, a Norman knight who came over to England with William the Conqueror, fought at the Battle of Hastings on October 14, 1066, was granted land in England for his military services and whose name is in The Domesday Book.
Generation 2 and 3, Unknown de Valers. Statements have appeared in print that Alured de Valer fought with William the Conqueror in the Battle of Hastings, 14 Oct. 1066; was given land in England for his military service; that his name is recorded in The Domesday Book (published in 1086) and that he died in 1183. Now, since there is a spread of 117 years from the Battle of Hastings to the year 1183, it seems clear that the same person could not have
taken part in that battle and lived until 1183. It has been decided, at least to our
satisfaction, that two generations of Valers must have existed between the veteran of Hastings and the recorded death of an Alured in 1183.
Generation 4, Alured de Valer, who died in 1183, was a great grandson of The Hero of Hastings. He is mentioned on the mural tablet erected by Sir Jonathan Wathen Waller (b. 1769) at Speldhurst Church, near Tonbridge Wells, in County Kent. He lived at Newark, Nottinghamshire and married Adelina de Hockerton.
Generation 5, John de Valer, born about 1165. We would appreciate any documented information we can get on this individual.
Generation 6, Henry de Valer, born about 1200. We would appreciate any documented information we can get on this individual.
Generation 7, Vilhelm de Valer, (ca. 1230-1278). We would appreciate any documented information we can get on this individual.
Generation 8, Valer de Valer, (ca. 1260-1316). We would appreciate any documented information we can get on this individual.
Generation 9, Henry de Valer (ca. 1295-1371), of Hockerton, who married Alicia de Mortimer. From this union sprang the Wallers of Groombridge Hall.
Generation 10, Thomas Waller (1330-1390), oldest Unknown and heir. He married Christina Chalfunt, Unknown of Henry Chalfunt. We do not know when the family left the estate in Nottinghamshire, given them by William the Conqueror, but it was this Thomas Waller, of Lamberthurst, who in 1360 purchased from Lord Clinton the estate known as "Groombridge" (also spelled Gromebridge and Groomsbridge) to begin a 244 year tenure there by the Waller family. Records show License of Land, (Title) at Billingston in 1407.
Much earlier in Saxony times Groombridge had been a moated castle.

From http://worldconnect.genealogy.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=timmychew&id=I043639



posted 08-07-2006 05:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Eve429   Click Here to Email Eve429     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Paul for the reply. Yes, Thomas was the first to drop the de and use the W making his name Waller. My madian name is Waller. I am interested in finding any castles that my family was involved with possibly even resided in. It is so fascinating to me. I know that from Thomas' line came Sir Richard Waller and Sir William Waller who inherited Groombridge Castle.

Sir William had a younger brother John. John was settled in Leigh, County Kent, when he purchased Beaconsfield Castle in Buckinghamshire, somewhere around 1450, and moved his family there to become the first of the Bucks Wallers and to begin a 200 year tenure for the Waller Family.

I am trying to locate and of these.

Thank you for your help.


posted 08-08-2006 08:08 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Groombridge place, a manor house, now stands on the site of the original castle which was built in the early 13th century.

"There has been a settlement at Groombridge since Saxon times, and a castle and moat were constructed on the site in the early 13th century by William Russell. Ownership passed later to the Earls of Cobham and to Lord Clinton and around 1400 to Thomas Waller of Lamberhurst. Richard Waller was thought to be involved in the capture of Charles, Duke of Orleans at Agincourt in 1415, whose brother Jean, Duke of Anglouleme was held hostage at Groombridge for thirty years from 1412"

excerpt from http://www.visitsoutheastengland.com/experiences/gardens/groombridge/index.aspx

I'll keep looking for Beaconsfield,


posted 07-16-2008 07:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bishop666   Click Here to Email bishop666     Edit/Delete Message
Im another descendant of alured de valer and am interested in finding what land he might have obtained

posted 11-12-2011 08:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnTruscott   Click Here to Email JohnTruscott     Edit/Delete Message
Do you know anything about Arthur Sydney Waler, b. Northleach, Gloucestershire 1882, d. Nairobi,Kenya 1952? He was my grandfather, whom I never knew,

John Truscott

posted 10-24-2014 06:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lourencohen   Click Here to Email lourencohen     Edit/Delete Message
One of my colleague is named as "de Valer" and it was interesting to read and know about the history behind this name. I guess he never heard about this in his life, so I can give him a surprise with this page. Thank you.
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posted 01-15-2015 06:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Kashif   Click Here to Email Kashif     Edit/Delete Message
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posted 02-01-2017 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Malcolmban   Click Here to Email Malcolmban     Edit/Delete Message
In the time of Cromwell (I'm afraid I don't have an exact date) Robert Waller, a direct descendant of Alured de Waller (as he is named in Debrett's) was sent to Ireland by Cromwell as part of an invasionary force. Presumably as a reward for his efforts, Castle Kenny in Co. Tipperary was 'given' to him, and he renamed it Castle Waller. The ruins of this castle still exist, near the village of Castle Waller, and there are photographs of it on the net.

posted 02-01-2017 06:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Malcolmban   Click Here to Email Malcolmban     Edit/Delete Message
Incidentally, my interest in this thread is that my grandmother, Roberta Waller, was the great-niece of Edmund Waller, Baronet of Newport (Co. Tipperary) who was the direct descendant of Robert Waller, and was, I believe, still in possession of Castle Waller during his lifetime.

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