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Glaive203
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posted 10-30-2000 04:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaive203     Edit/Delete Message

Assuming they had wooden floors,how specifically were they constructed(supported)?

wurdsmiff
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posted 10-30-2000 01:04 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Please be more specific, there are a huge variety of castle types which were constructed of sandstone. There are also a variety of floor types and materials used for their construction. You seem to imply a connection between sandstone construction and specific floor types. I can think of many sandstone castles which had stone flags on the lower floors and wooden floor above. As with all construction, the materials used depended largely upon what was available in the region, and the welath of the constructor.

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Glaive203
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posted 10-30-2000 09:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaive203     Edit/Delete Message
My real interest in in how the floors were supported whether wood,brick or stone;but start with dungeons and peels.PS you can be technical without loosing me.I would also like to praise your pike and yellow perch! You've beat my best northern by 3lbs and perch by two.

wurdsmiff
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posted 10-31-2000 03:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message
We don't have yellow perch here, nor other species of pike, so pike are pike and perch are perch. The pike isn't my largest, I've had one at 27&1/2 pounds. I presume you are from America or Canada if you call them Northern Pike.
Wooden floors were supported on cross beams, themselves supported on corbels, or set within sockets in the walls. Stone flagged floors generally were on the basement, or the floor above a stone vaulted ceiling, mortared infill being used to provide leveling.

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duncan
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posted 10-31-2000 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for duncan   Click Here to Email duncan     Edit/Delete Message
As you may allready know, timber frameing also in conjuction with those items that Gordon put in his last post was used in some castles. Most of all the timbers used were salvaged from other buildings due to the difficultys in finding the large beams or the cost of transport in to the area. A number of joints like the scarf joint was used to bind two or more timbers together their by increasing the length of the span when needed.
Metal nails were around then all haveing been made by hand at a forge, but wooden pegs usually made of oak was the primary fastener. The holes for these pegs were drilled at a slight off set so the peg would bend with the drying of the wood as well as the increase and decrease of moisture in the air. The peg bending like this helped to keep the joints tightly together.
Pegs were also used in wooden floors to secure the planks to the joists. At the seam between two planks the holes were drilled in such a way that they resembled a V. Then a water soaked oak peg was hammered through the plank's hole and into the hole in the rafter or joist. In some places the pegs have been known to be soaked in oil before being driven. This may be due to a too tight of a fit caused by the boss being away that day or for any number of other reasons.
Hope this helps

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Erik Schmidt
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As Gordon said, cross beams were supported on corbels or set into the wall itself, but in other cases, the beams would rest on a ledge formed by narrowing the wall at the height of the floor. Also, I have seen several cases, such as at castles Thun and Wildegg in Switzerland, where a stone or roof tile flagged floor with a significant rubble sublayer was supported by a wooden floor with multiple layers of planking and beams spaced very closely, with a great span(eg Thun Castle).
In lower levels where a great span was not needed, the floor often had supporting posts.

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