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Fox Atreides
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posted 01-25-2001 05:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fox Atreides   Click Here to Email Fox Atreides     Edit/Delete Message
In tales about castles and stuf, you often hear/see someone is killed by hanging. Did the people actually did that sort of things?

And when they did, did castles have their own gallow?

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wurdsmiff
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posted 01-25-2001 08:29 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Yes they did. In Scotland many castles had their own gallows, usually a little distance away, and their position is often betrayed on modern maps by place names such as Gallowshill, or Gallowflat. These always occur around the major castles, unless the name has disappeared into the mists of time, however many smaller castles also had gallowhills if the lord there had power of 'pit and gallows', that is the right to hold court and act justiciar on his own property. Many minor lords, particularly in the unruly borders area took this power upon themselves, just to keep unwelcome visitors from England (and Scotland) under control!

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Philip Davis
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posted 01-25-2001 02:29 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I suppose it's also worth mentioning that this type of hanging was slow strangulation taking several minutes (as in Hang Em High) not the (usually) rapid judical hanging where the neck is broken. The body would often remain hanging until destoyed by carrion either on the noose or in a cage as a warning to others. There are numerous reports of heads of criminal and traitors being displayed on spikes at castle walls and town gates (Oliver Cromwell's head was reportedly displayed thus and he had to be disintered from his grave to get the head!)

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Merlin
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posted 01-26-2001 05:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Merlin   Click Here to Email Merlin     Edit/Delete Message
Castles had their own gallows if their lord had the privilege of high jurisdiction, also called 'Blutgerichtsbarkeit' (blood-jurisdiction) in german, meaning the right to decide about life and death. The gallow usualy was the be found an a hill not far from the castle. Three stones, once holding the gallow, can be seen on a hill, now covered with trees, just 200m west of the once mighty castle of Jörgenberg (now in ruins) in Switzerland. Sorry - I didn't take a picture when I was there and there's nothing on the net about it.

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Fox Atreides
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posted 01-27-2001 01:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fox Atreides   Click Here to Email Fox Atreides     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the info. guys!

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Glaive203
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posted 01-29-2001 04:55 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaive203     Edit/Delete Message
true and excellent replies;but the hanging was actually grimmer-the subject was first disemballed,then had some of his guts burnt and only then was slowly hung.There was no drop either he was raised instead.

Fox Atreides
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posted 01-29-2001 05:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fox Atreides   Click Here to Email Fox Atreides     Edit/Delete Message
Ah, how nice, great story to ruin your appetite.

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wurdsmiff
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posted 01-29-2001 01:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I'm sure Glaive 203 meant disemboweled in his mail, though no doubt some folks were castrated too before the actual hanging. Sounds like you've been watching Braveheart again G.

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Fox Atreides
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posted 01-31-2001 03:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fox Atreides   Click Here to Email Fox Atreides     Edit/Delete Message
O, noe I'm hungry again. Thank again everyone.

P.S. Is Braveheart a good movy?

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wurdsmiff
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posted 01-31-2001 07:54 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Depends on your taste, it was very popular in Scotland since we saw the English get a hiding and it showed them up as a bad lot.
The Scots also took a beating, but that didn't matter too much, since we won in the end!
However don't rely on it for historical accuracy.

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Fox Atreides
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posted 01-31-2001 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fox Atreides   Click Here to Email Fox Atreides     Edit/Delete Message
Thnx again. I suppose it quit bores you now.

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wurdsmiff
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posted 01-31-2001 12:59 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Never.

Glaive203
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posted 02-10-2001 06:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Glaive203     Edit/Delete Message
I watched braveheart only once when it first came out! I confess I'm a bad speller! My knowledge came from reading history not movies!

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