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JohnDoe13
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posted 02-24-2002 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JohnDoe13   Click Here to Email JohnDoe13     Edit/Delete Message
THE KEEP IS THE DUNGEON OF THE CASTLE, AND IT DON'T HAVE A DRAWBRIDGE!!!!!!!

castleuk
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posted 02-24-2002 02:38 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Hi JohnDoe 13
I'm sorry to say you are completely wrong.
Yours Chris

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Erik Schmidt
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posted 02-24-2002 05:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Erik Schmidt   Click Here to Email Erik Schmidt     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Rich,
I can only presume you are responding to my reply to Papatoad's questions in the forum.
I'll clarify. In 'modern' times the French word "Donjon" has been reused in the English as the word 'dungeon', which means some sort of prison, torture chamber or cellar within a castle. The word has little to do with castles in reality. If you use the search on these forums you will find other discussions which go into this further.
The original French word "donjon" means exactly the same as the English word "keep". They have nothing to with cellars or prisons as such, as they pertain to a building within the castle which is used as a last refuge and is often made stronger than the rest of the castle. The keeps come in many shapes and sizes, from small roundtowers to large rectangular buildings, such as the ones the Normans built in many English castles.
The words 'keep' and 'donjon describe the whole building, and some of these did indeed have a small drawbridge in front of the door, and in most cases this was the only entrance to the keep.

Erik

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papatoad
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posted 05-23-2002 11:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for papatoad   Click Here to Email papatoad     Edit/Delete Message
Thank everyone. You've been a great help. Papatoad.

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