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Topic: Floorplans for Cambridge Castle
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chocolate
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posted 12-08-2000 11:50 AM
  
Hi!
I could do with some floorplans of English Norman castles for a school project. I need to make a model of a Norman castle and I really want to do a model of Cambridge, cos that's were I live.
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Philip Davis
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posted 12-08-2000 12:25 PM
As you know little remains of Cambridge castle other than the motte with it's fine view over the town. I'm not sure if the site has ever been properly excavated (much of the bailey is under buildings) and I doubt if a plan exists. However, it would have been, in all likelyhood, a typical wooden motte and bailey such as the one illustrated at http://www.castlewales.com/motte.html ------------------
And as I rode by Dalton-Hall Beneath the turrets high, A maiden on the castle-wall Was singing merrily: The Outlaw by Sir Walter Scott
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chocolate
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posted 12-09-2000 12:38 AM
Cambrige is a very famous Univerity CITY, not a town |
Philip Davis
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posted 12-09-2000 03:13 AM
Well that's a debateble point. In my book a city is a town with a cathedral. A town is a conurbation with a market. All the cities of the UK are towns. The smallest city is St David's in Wales with a population of a few thousand whilst large towns like Wolverhampton, with a population of 100 thousand plus are not cities. However, this is not a strict definition and many people and organisations tend to define the deference between village, town and city purely by size these days rather than by economic and social function.I'm afraid that the reality of much in the world is that there are few simple and unambigious answers. By the way did you find the link I gave useful at all? If your really interested in Cambridge's castle you could make an appointment to see the town's (city's) archeologist - telephone 01233 717312. ------------------
And as I rode by Dalton-Hall Beneath the turrets high, A maiden on the castle-wall Was singing merrily: The Outlaw by Sir Walter Scott
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wurdsmiff
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posted 12-09-2000 05:26 AM
Philip's definition of a city is correct, though by using that definition, Dornoch in Scotland has long held claim to be the UK's smallest city, with a populace of only a few hundred, and yet with one of the most beautiful small cathedrals in the country.
You'll see it in the news a lot in the next few weeks, some pop star or other is being married in the area. What's her name....?
No doubt we'll get lots of questions about Skibo Castle too, although the present castle is really a 19th century mansion built by Andrew Carnegie. The old castle has long since gone. ------------------
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chocolate
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posted 12-10-2000 05:36 AM
Thanks for the pictures, I found them really usefull. I'll check out the phone number you gave me.
About Cambridge being a city, Cambridge doesn't have a cathredral, but Ely cathredral is considered to be Cambridge's as well. On a related point, my grand-dad worked on Ely cathredral doing the carpenty. |
Philip Davis
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posted 12-10-2000 11:42 AM
Yes Ely is a beautiful cathedral which I've visited many times. The wooden octagon which replaced the central Norman stone tower is a masterpiece of 14th Century carpentry by William Hurley and William Ramsey. I'm glad that many generations of other carpenters, like you grandfather have helped to maintain and restore this fine cathedral. You may not know that there is a small motte near to the cathedral called Cherry Hill. Perhaps if you get the chance to go up the west front towers, as I did, you will be able to spot it.------------------
And as I rode by Dalton-Hall Beneath the turrets high, A maiden on the castle-wall Was singing merrily: The Outlaw by Sir Walter Scott
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Garry
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posted 12-19-2000 03:37 PM
There is a plan of Cambridge Castle drawn in the 19th Century.
But it shows the Castle after it had Civil war defences added to the Bailey so the original layout of the Bailey is not clear, so I dont think it would be of much use to you.------------------
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chocolate
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posted 12-23-2000 12:08 PM
Thanks for all the help everybody.
I've been doing some reseach, and Cambridge officaly became a city in 1951.
Also, I have been to Cheery Hill.
Thanx
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Levan
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posted 12-29-2000 08:44 AM
For the record, I believe Wolverhampton was one of the UK towns to win city status to cellebrate the millennium. Inverness in the Scottish highlands was also granted city status. I'm afraid I can't remember the other winners.Levan |
Philip Davis
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posted 12-29-2000 05:02 PM
It was actually Brighton and Hove in Sussex. Personally I think the offical city status buisness is hocum and I perfer functional definitions (A conurbation with a market is a town. A conurbation with a cathederal is a city) However, in the end it's all fairly meaningless and I shalt not be visiting Wolverhampton because of it's now a city. I was there just before xmas and it was as city (or a rhyming word) as ever.------------------
And the astronomyours beheldyne the constellacions of hys bryth by thare castle, and foundyn that he sholde bene wyse and curteyse, good of consaill Secreta Secretorum
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Levan
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posted 12-31-2000 04:46 AM
I agree that City status in itself does not render a place interesting or make it worth visiting. However, I think most settlements in Britain, including villages and hamlets (and even former settlements for that matter) have something that makes them interesting from a historical perspective. Sometimes the way that buildings have metamorphosed to adapt to changing requirements can be very interesting. Admittedly, in some cases this might be merely from the aspect of how heritage has been squandered by neglect, destroyed by warfare, and possibly even more inexcusable, destroyed by self-important land-owners or by bureaucrats to make way for local government 'developments' - sigh - oh well! Time I shut up - I think we've visited these latter issues before! Levan
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chocolate
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posted 01-04-2001 02:57 AM
Just for the record, Cambridge was made a city in 1953. Cambridge was made a city because togeter with Oxford, it has got one of the most famous Univeritys in England. |
AJR
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posted 01-04-2001 05:06 AM
Cambridge (lovely place) is best known for the University, but that "other place" (Oxford) is really only known for its marmalade. (but it may have a University too, if that's what you can call it) |
A Knight
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posted 02-26-2001 12:53 PM
I have a plan of Cambridge Castle - this is a larger version of that shown on page 21 of Grose's Antiquities - Vol 1. The plan in Grose's includes a "Bird's-eye view when complete". The plan and drawing is "from an Ancient Drawing formerly belonging to General Armstrong supposed to be Drawn about the Reign of Queen Elizabeth."------------------
Andy Knight
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