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posted 02-19-2001 07:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Borealic     Edit/Delete Message
Has anyone ever been to Gwrych Castle?

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posted 02-19-2001 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AJR     Edit/Delete Message
No !! But I bet Peter has, since the castle is almost on his doorstep.
Have you been ? Or do you require info on the site - or pictures ?

The broken stones, the ruined walls,
'Tis few who know where hist'ry falls.

posted 02-19-2001 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Borealic     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, any infomation would be gratefully recieved. It is such a wonderful buildings, very very beautiful.

posted 02-19-2001 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter   Click Here to Email Peter     Edit/Delete Message
You see .. if people subscribed to my Postern magazine they would know all about these things .. only jokin'
Okay .. Gwrych Castle, a very sad ruin. Most of the building, though on an ancient site, was not finished until 1853. the first stone was laid about 1819>
A young boy (not so young now), Mark Baker, started the friends of Gwrych Castle. And with them went on to produce an excellent booklet, which you all should buy.
This details the rise & fall of the castle in nearly 90-pages.
It can be obtained from Mark Baker at;
A.S.F.O.G. 7, Clive Ave.
Prestatyn, Denbighshire, Noth Wales. LL19 7BL : For &8. 50: incl. postage. If you are not in the U.K. write Mark first, and mention Postern & my name.
This is the place where my love for castles started. Being taken there whilst on holiday with my family when but a nipper. Randolf Turpin (the boxer) used it as training camp. So we went along to watch him on the outside training ring.
Buy this booklet and help a fight in preserving our heritage.

Philip Davis
posted 02-19-2001 01:31 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I saw one iffy web site hint of it being the site of a medieval castle, but it does not come up in any of my sources. Do you have any details of it being a medieval castle or is this a story to boost the title of 19C house?

And the astronomyours beheldyne the constellacions of hys bryth by thare castle, and foundyn that he sholde bene wyse and curteyse, good of consaill
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posted 02-20-2001 07:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Borealic     Edit/Delete Message
On the site of Gwrych Castle stood the ancient home of the Lloyd Family, Ty Ucha. Part of this still is incorporated into the West wing of Gwrych Castle. Gwrych is a very very beautiful castle and everyone falls in love with it.

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posted 02-20-2001 12:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for duncan   Click Here to Email duncan     Edit/Delete Message
I havn't been able to find even your iffy web site Philip which makes me think its an adverb for buying the books as well as to boost the title of the house since no real evidence of a true castle has been forthcomeing.
Is it time to bring out the old topic of
"What Is A Real Castle"

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Philip Davis
posted 02-20-2001 01:17 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Certainly ancient home could mean anything. I gather in the states any building over 200 years old is ancient. The Royal Commission of Ancient and Historic Monuments Wales does, in it online database CARN, list it as Post-medieval ? so there may be something to it being a medeival site. If there are parts of an older building within the 19C structure what is the nature of these remains, particularly are they thick walled (over 1metre).

posted 02-21-2001 03:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Borealic     Edit/Delete Message
With Gwrych, The earliest part dates back to the Princes of Wales. There are miles of tunnels uder the Castle and many Caves. The bases of the oldest walls are very thick. The basements are the oldest parts and also the west wing. Gwrych is a mixture of Old and relatively new. Within it's ground were fought many violent battles and on it's gatehouses these battles are retold.

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