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Gabry
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posted 10-17-2002 03:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabry     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Marko! I have seen your links! They are very important for my thesis! Excuse me if I do another question. Do you know something about the site of Mystrà in Greece? I don't know if there is a castle here.
Bye
Gabry

ipflo
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posted 10-18-2002 05:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ipflo   Click Here to Email ipflo     Edit/Delete Message
hi

don't excuse for asking questions, there for is this forum.

yep in mystra is a castle
http://www.mistraestates.gr/mistra.htm http://www.laconia.org/Mystra1_castle.htm http://www.appleonline.net/maniguide/magne1.html http://www.ne.jp/asahi/amateras/sky/greece/pelo-e.htm http://www.idcnet.com/~dchristo/mystras.htm http://members.tripod.com/~Rene_de_Hoop/pelopon/mistras.html

in the book fortresses and castles of greece volume 2 of al paradissis (ISBN 960 226 290 7, the book is from 1997) you can find a chapter about the history of the castle (8 pages and 2 pictures).

by the way what for thesis are you writing

Marko
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posted 10-19-2002 05:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marko   Click Here to Email Marko     Edit/Delete Message
You're very welcome Gabry and good luck with your thesis. And, as I am just as curious as ipflo; what is the subject of your thesis?

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Gabry
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posted 10-20-2002 06:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabry     Edit/Delete Message
The title of my thesis is " The musealization of medievil culture in Europe:Experience in comparition ". The sites object of my thesis are Mistra, Les Baux, Rougiers, The Castle of Guedelon ( another problem because i haven't found nothing also about this one ), The Viking museum of Ribe in Denmark, The Yorvik Viking Center of York, The Santa Giulia museum of Brescia, The archaelogical Park of Poggibonsi (Siena), The Museum of Crypta Balbi in Rome, The arch. Park of Rocca San Silvestro ( Livorno, Toscana).

I would like to take the degree on this March, But i have understood that is very difficult for me to find all these informations. Besides The books that i've found are all in English.
Tank you very much for your precious help!
Gabry

Marko
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posted 10-20-2002 07:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marko   Click Here to Email Marko     Edit/Delete Message
Well, that's a broad range of sites but it sounds interesting.
Also if with the castle of Guedelon you mean the one that's now being build in France, then here's the link: http://www.guedelon.com/

[This message has been edited by Marko (edited 10-20-2002).]

Peter
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posted 10-20-2002 07:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter   Click Here to Email Peter     Edit/Delete Message
Gabry,
do you mean the old fortifications above the town of the same name, Poggibonsi ?
I have visited this site if interested.

[This message has been edited by Peter (edited 10-20-2002).]

Gabry
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posted 10-20-2002 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabry     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, the right web site is www.guedelon.com...thank you!
Poggibonsi is a town near Siena where there is the medievil fortress of Poggio Imperiale. it was done an interesting progect of musealization that has included also natural, paesagistic and archaelogic near places, creating a big Archaeologc and cultural Park.
In my thesis i have to study whether real archaeologic site that recostructons of medieval sites, like The Viking centre, Guedelon etc...
I have to send them an e-mail with a questionary where I ask tham their progect of musealization from the bigin at the end. I hope that they will answer me because for some of these sites is very difficult find books , publications, etc, expecially in italian.

If you know some useful information for me of someone of these sites, i will be grateful.

Greetings,
Gabry

Erik Schmidt
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posted 10-21-2002 05:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Erik Schmidt   Click Here to Email Erik Schmidt     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Gabry,
I have visited both Mistra and Les Baux. If you have some questions about them from the point of view of a tourist, I would be happy to tell you a bit about each site.
Also, if you have problems getting information from some of the sites, I am sure we could suggest some alternative sites to use if it is possible for you to change sites.

For example, the castle of Melfi in Italy and the Castello di Montebello in Bellinzona in Switzerland. Both have archaeological exhibits, but I think they contain earlier finds, not medieval.
Quite a few of the Swiss castles have exhibits of medieval and renaissance objects associated with the site.

There are journals and web sites devoted to "museology", and I have come across articles written about such museums and their exhibits. Have you tried looking for information from such sources?

Some museology links; http://www.lib.uea.ac.uk/libinfo/subjinfo/arts/museol.htm http://www.umu.se/nordic.museology/journal.html http://daryl.chin.gc.ca:8000/BASIS/bmus/user/www/sf http://link.bubl.ac.uk/museums/


Erik

Gabry
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posted 10-21-2002 11:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Gabry     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Erik for your help.
For me is important that you have just seen Mistra and Les Baux...so if is possible for you, i would like to have your opinion abput these sites.
- Are The panels are organized in the correct way to render easy the explanations for the tourists?
- How are organized the itinenaries?
- Wich is the Historic peculiarity of the site?
- What kind of Middle Age the site wants to rappresent?
- Are there special ways for disabled people?

These are only exemples of answers important for my thesis. You could continue to explain me about your experiences in these sites.
You can send me a mail to gallogab@tin.it
Thank you
Gabry

Erik Schmidt
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posted 10-22-2002 01:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Erik Schmidt   Click Here to Email Erik Schmidt     Edit/Delete Message
It is unfortunately over 3 years since I visited those sites, and I have forgotten most of the details you are seeking.

I was very impressed by the architecture represented at Mistra. The castle was not very interesting, but some of the other buildings were. I really love stone buildings, and those at Mistra, especially many of the ruined ones, showed the stone very well.
I remember there was a museum there, but I don't recall any of what was in it or how it was presented. It is quite small.
The site relied mostly on the buildings as the attraction, which the web sites will tell you more about than I could.
I still have the tourist guide to the site. It has a map showing all the buildings and ruins as well as the paths, and labels 13of the main features.
The guide explains a little about 7 of the main buildings, and concentrates only on the period from late Byzantine times, 1260, until 1460.
Much of the site is very steep. Entry is at the top, reached by a road, but inside you get around on paths. Near the bottom, there may be disabled access, but the top part of the site could not allow wheelchair access as it is too steep and there are many steps as far as I recall.

Le Baux is very different. Part of the attraction is the small village where people still live. The old streets in the village are not too steep, and disabled access would be possible. Parking is outside the village and you access the museum and castle by walking up through the village. Most of the museum and castle would be easily accessed by disabled people and had wide paths.
Once again, the museum is small and I don't remember what was in it or how it was displayed. There was also a slide show.
I still have the tourit guide and it has a picture of the museum, which shows models and reconstruction drawings of the site.
The castle is medieval to renaissance according to the guide. There are large replicas of a trebuche and mangonel displayed. Most of the castle is very ruined, but an effort is made through the drawings and model reconstructions to show what it was like in the past.

I hope that helps,

Erik

Peter
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posted 10-24-2002 03:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter   Click Here to Email Peter     Edit/Delete Message
Gabry,
for Poggio Imperiale try www.castellitoscani.com/poggibonsi

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