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castlesmiley
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posted 12-27-2000 05:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for castlesmiley     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks, but about the royalty and stuff, do you have any resources on that? Also, I need to build a model castle.

Philip Davis
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posted 12-27-2000 11:21 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Under the Feudal system in England, as I understand it, the King owned all of the land but let most of it to Barons in return for an oath of loyalty and a fee of military service (Feudal comes from the Latin for fee). However, in practice, the land became the baron's and the baron had to be very treasonous and the King very strong to take it away from the baron. The barons military fee was to provide a certain number of knights for service in war or for castle duty. These knight usually held some land of the barons and made there living from that land.
Barons were of several different types. The greater barons where generally Dukes often taking there title from an English county so Roger Bigod was Duke of Norfolk (This can become confusing because he called be called Norfolk or Duke Bigod or the Duke of Norfolk or Roger) Many Barons had several titles and Kings and Princes (in England the monarchy sons or grandsons - called Princes of the Blood) so that today Prince Charles is Prince of Wales and Duke of Cornwall (but in medieval times the Prince of Wales was an independent ruler of the country of Wales who gave an oath of loyalty to the English king but did not provide military service - Neither Princes or Barons appear to have felt that the oath of loyalty meant they needn't war with the King, hence all the castles)
Next after Dukes came Earls, still great lords but not quite as great as dukes, a special type of Earl was a Marquess who had responsibility for lands on the borders of England (lands known as the Marches). The European equivalent of an Earl was a Count, since many English Nobles held land in France some were Counts.
Below these great land owners where the lesser barons but actually most of the land of England was held by just 300 or so families and lesser barons were often related to greater barons.
A Lord was someone who held a manor (the smallest division of land) which includes all of the above.

Churchmen also held land, often lots of it, and the Bishops of Durham were the Marquess's of Durham, charged with keeping the dreadful Scots out. They were so powerful that they were known as the Prince Bishops, because the held there land as though they were princes (you remember - oath of loyalty but no need to provide knights to serve the king) However, Churchmen almost always kept their church titles, since they land they held was the churches not there families (but of course some might also have family land as well!)

I've not mentioned women, since generally they did not hold land in medieval England. A kings wife was a queen and his daughters were princesses (as where princes's wifes). A barons wife was a baroness, count - countess, marquess - marchioness, duke - duchess and lord - lady.

I hope this helps.

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And as I rode by Dalton-Hall Beneath the turrets high, A maiden on the castle-wall Was singing merrily: The Outlaw by Sir Walter Scott
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[This message has been edited by Philip Davis (edited 12-29-2000).]

Levan
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posted 12-29-2000 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Levan   Click Here to Email Levan     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, for the model making aspect of your question, take a look at the postings in the Model Making forum. If you can't see any postings, you may need to change your settings for how long a period from which you want to view messages.

Levan

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