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amirek
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posted 08-03-2000 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for amirek   Click Here to Email amirek     Edit/Delete Message
I have a piece of jewelry that I believe was a souvenir of a European castle, abbey, or church. If anyone can help me to identify the castle, and possibly help me to date the piece, I would greatly appreciate it! Here is the URL to the jewelry in question:
http://www.cox-internet.com/amirek/images/camphorglass.jpg

I've searched and searched for a photo of a castle similar to the one depicted on the pendant, but I've not had any luck. I may have been searching in the wrong countries, though. If you have any idea what castle this might be, I'd love to hear from you. If you're not certain, but think you might know, I would appreciate leads.

Please feel free to e-mail me with any information/guesses you might have.

Thanks!

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Levan
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posted 08-04-2000 01:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Levan   Click Here to Email Levan     Edit/Delete Message
As far as I recall, it's not quite exact, but the image is very similar to a mid 16th Century depiction of Dunvegan Castle, Skye, on the tomb of Alasdair MacLeod in St Clement's church, Rodel, Harris.

The castle image on the Jewellery appears to be a stylized depiction of a castle, so might not be a representation of any particular castle - that said, you'd need to know that Alasdair MacLeod was from Dunvegan to be certain that Dunvegan is indeed the image on his tomb!

I can think of several Welsh and English castles that possibly have a closer match to the architectural features on your jewellery - I'll have a rummage through my photos later.

Levan

Philip Davis
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posted 08-04-2000 04:13 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I agree with Levan that this is a stylised representation of 13th-14th century castles rather than of a particular castle. I can think of many castles of that sort of date that this might represent both in England and Wales and that is of the relatively few such castles that still exist, many more castles of this general form have long since vanished. Although it looks like a 14C castle I'm pretty sure the piece is not as old as that.

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Walchelin
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posted 08-04-2000 07:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Walchelin   Click Here to Email Walchelin     Edit/Delete Message
The piece does seem to be a stylized representation of a 14th-15th cent. gatehouse, such as Raglan:
http://www.castlewales.com/raglan1.jpg

or even Lancaster: http://www.priory.lancs.ac.uk/castle_2.html


You might also consider the possibility that it could be simply heraldic. I found a few heraldic devices featuring castles in the Dictionary of Heraldry (by Joseph Foster, reprint 1996). For example, Sir William Hill bore ermine, on a fess sable a castle argent. None of the representations looked exactly like yours, however...

Wish I could be more helpful. It is an interesting piece to be sure! *S*

[This message has been edited by Walchelin (edited 08-04-2000).]

canadab
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posted 08-09-2000 01:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for canadab   Click Here to Email canadab     Edit/Delete Message
I looks like the Northern Gate of Bodium.
http://www.mnsinc.com/amwoolf/bodium.html

The angle on this photo isn't the best .. but it does look right.

Amberein

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pearl
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posted 08-26-2000 11:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for pearl   Click Here to Email pearl     Edit/Delete Message
i'm trying to find a better view of this. it is Castello Scaligero in Sermione, Italy on lake Garda. it's been a while, and i don't remember if the towers are symmetrical when you are looking across the mote at the arched entrance. is there any engraving on the back of that?
http://www.sirmione.com/ingr1.htm

i had to wonder if camphor glass is Venetian, but actually most of it was made in the good old USA. some of it did come from England, i think. most most of it seems to only go back as far as late 1800s. but i'm no antique expert. i do believe, though that the castle didn't just pop in the artists head. creations come from things the artist has seen--for real or in a picture. i agree with the person who suggested that the structure may not be still standing. on the other hand, though, i was looking at castles in the US. no they are not authentic 14th century midieval fortresses, but i am astounded at how many there are--little out of the way stone replicas. and people are still finding them. it makes me think there are millions of them in other places in the world. i'd say you've got one heck of a lot of hunting yet to do. then you have to start on the historical records of the ones that are piles of rubble now. maybe you better get busy. ...p

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