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Ingela Fjellborg
posted 11-15-2002 04:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ingela Fjellborg   Click Here to Email Ingela Fjellborg     Edit/Delete Message
Iīm looking for a castle called Wattelsbourg. I am told that it was/is situated in Shropshire, England - but I canīt find it anywhere. Have I misunderstood the information - perhaps it isnīt a castle at all?

One of my 'ancestors' was a knight of Wattelsbourg in the 13th Century, but I know that there were people with his family name born at Wattelsbourg in the 16th Century.

Can anyone help me with this question?

Ingela Fjellborg (27) from Sweden.

posted 11-16-2002 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter   Click Here to Email Peter     Edit/Delete Message
the name is 'Wattlesborough', so not to far out with the name. Map ref is SJ 355126.
It was held about 1086 by Roger Fitz Corbet. It passed my marraige in the 1380's to John le Pole, and c 1470 to the Leightons. They lived there until c17ll when Sir Edward Leighton made Loton Park their home. The good remains of the great tower are attached to a later farmhouse.
Hope that gives you something to search with.

posted 11-16-2002 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ipflo   Click Here to Email ipflo     Edit/Delete Message

through the following sites you can find a aerial photo of Wattlesborough hall, in which the tower of the castle is incorporated

Ingela Fjellborg
posted 11-17-2002 07:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ingela Fjellborg   Click Here to Email Ingela Fjellborg     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Peter and 'ipflo'!

No wonder that I couldnīt find it on the web. :-)

I am just curious about one thing. Peter, you wrote that Wattlesborough came into the Leighton family in around 1470. The source I have says that my ancestor was still alive in 1250 and that he was a knight of Wattlesborough (Edvard Lighton). I am going to 'investigate' this a little bit more - now when I know the name of the castle. :-)

Once again thank you - both.

Ingela Fjellborg

posted 11-17-2002 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Peter   Click Here to Email Peter     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, it is quite possible that Edvard Lighton was a knight connected with the castle, and lived nearby. Perhaps even in the castle as part of some duties. And he was able to acquire the castle because of that.
But all the sources I have checked on the castle do give the same families as owning the castle, on the dates given.
Good luck with your research.

posted 11-18-2002 05:11 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Yes, but in those days there was no standard spelling, and so Sir Edvard may well have been a Leighton. Most writing was still done by the clerics, who spelt phonetically, Leighton and Lighton are very similar.
As recently as 1875 - 1920, a small graveyard in the south of Scotland has seven different spellings of the Caffel surname for members of the same (my grandfather's)family.....seven different ministers?.....Caffel, Cafel, Cavell, Caffell, Cavvel, Cavvell, Cavel...and not one of them owned a castle!

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